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Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - kingvaillant - 10-12-2008
Folks, you know that multiple lawful NPC are selling information about JH locations in bars?
Although, for normal patrols, I refrain from using JH.
I believe that in-rp,a lawfuls would prefer using JG for safety reasons. but would know about JH and such. and may use them if necessary
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - tansytansey - 10-12-2008
Although I disagree there are any jumpholes considered 'unlawful' I agree with the whole Nebula thing. But lets not be too harsh, not all Lawfuls go chasing you into the nebulas.
Just the other day I was flying around Manhatten and all of a sudden about 6 Liberty Lawfuls popped out of nowhere. I mean litterally nowhere, half a minute ago there were none in NY. It was something like a cruiser or two, two gunships, a gunboat and at least 2 VHF again one Hacker Gunship and my Falcata Bomber. Once the Gunship got blown up I high tailed it outta there on my thruster. I made it all the way to WP, having had my countermeasures, mines, two rear turrets and cruise disruptor shot off, and only around 35 bots left. There was some Bh guy blocking the Ithica TL, but I tricked him to moving by pretending to go to the california JG tradelane. Once I made it into the nebula, all the lawfuls pulled away and let me flee.
So not all Lawfuls go into the Nebula. I think one of the factionised players ordered all the indies not to pursue. But my experience is that lawfuls don't enter the badlands unless there's a nomad infestation or something.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - RonG777 - 10-12-2008
I can understand the views of both sides of this topic, both explains good points.
The problem is that if use of jump holes were to be made into a rule it would be too difficult to enforce, there are too many "grey" areas about JH use.
Also, Igiss would have to recruit another five Admins just to deal with additional waves of rule violation reports.
I feel that it would be best for us to role play our characters the best we can and set an example to others without adding additional rules that will only cause more confusion and dificulty to playing this game.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - CaltuRe - 10-12-2008
If JH's not to be in an area of patrol of police or military men they it is final not имееют the rights to appear near it. And about JH's from Leeds in Dublin, it can be marked with TL's (especially, near TL's) pass patrol ways of police).
BUT, police and military men for what should not use JH's I pursue the pirate! It would be very dangerous (suddenly there some more piracy ships which have arrived as a reinforcement?).
Pirates cannot use JG's, about TL's it seems to me that they are able to do it (only certainly not to be conected to them directly near station, and not to leave near them). But the smuggler, at own risk can quite use JG's and TL's.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - jammi - 10-12-2008
' Wrote:I'm quite sure the ones who are at crete and malta are closely allied with and trusted by the outcasts/corsairs, otherwise they'd be blasted on sight.Have you seen what happens when a Freelancer NPC spawns near Crete? Generaly speaking, you'll either get nine player Titans mob him, or the NPC Titans will demand he drops his Side Arms, which he'll refuse, then he'll -again- get mobbed.
As for JH's, there are a few that appear on scanners from trade lanes, such as the Dublin JH in Leeds, Lawfuls abviously know about these. Other JHs that are in nebulars and radiation pockets (less so for scrap/asteroid fields) are a no-go zone for lawfuls.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - Panzer - 10-12-2008
it's okay.
Who said a police officer doesn't know where his suspects are going?
Take chasing Ashcroft in SP. King DID pick the NY jumphole in Colorado up, so logically, they'd send someone to check it out!
And let's quit pretending, that those who can't do stuff are doomed never to change it.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - Othman - 10-12-2008
This poll will go nowhere.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - Kullman - 10-12-2008
I think than maybe not all lawful players must go inside jump holes, meaning police and military. i think than inteligence type as LSF could know and use jumpholes, cause they are on the information business, and their must be know at least than jumpholes are quite safe, as enemies are using it all day, and over all they must be doing undercover missions and must be ready for this.
Other lawful organizations like republican shipping, samura, kishiro must be out of jumpholes, but others as IMG, must have the knowledge and capability to use it.
Neutral, zoners, and freelancers, as well as civilians (until lvl 40), can use jumpholes too.
Anyways i voted all use... cause i think not all lawful must be restrained for using it.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - Tenacity - 10-12-2008
Quote:I can understand the views of both sides of this topic, both explains good points.
The problem is that if use of jump holes were to be made into a rule it would be too difficult to enforce, there are too many "grey" areas about JH use.
I dont think it needs to be in the official rules, I just think lawful (and unlawful) players need to show more self restraint in this area. There's all manner of unlawfuls that use jumpgates when they shouldnt - just look at the alaska gate, and how much smuggler activity it sees. On the other side of the fence you have lawfuls chasing smugglers or pirates into the heart of the badlands or other areas like they've got no concern about their own wellbeing, OORP behavior in itself IMO.
If the players could quit caring so much about catching that one guy at any and all costs, or making the most money by using a lawful jumpgate when you shouldnt, there'd probably be a much better RP environment here.
Lawfuls using/knowing about unlawful jump holes - Koolmo - 10-12-2008
Think of Tradelanes and jumpgates as Highways, and jumpholes and cruising as old country roads and strange trails. When a border patrol is trying to interdict smuggling operations, they'll not just block the highways, they'll go get the smaller roads and trails too. Their coverage might not be as good in those places, but they will know they exist, and they'll attempt to stop smuggling through them.