Quote:Posted by Jayenbee - Today, 02:03 AM
(Today, 12:19 AM)Lord Chaos Wrote:
(Yesterday, 11:30 PM)Demonic Wrote:
Cant really speak for the numbers, wold have to do a bit more than just look at the St.Danieles post, but the way I see it the Beaumont Spire specificaly was a victim of it's owner's RP. Bases are not invincible and such things should be kept in mind. Broadcasting publicly, to the whole sirius about your base in border region outside of direct house protection that BMM has a base next to a former IMG station which BMM and Bretonia tried to take over, and saying in said broadcast you're salvaging it, is inviting the disaster.

The way the base suddenly changed hands to junkers when IMG started asking questions was cringe and the attempt to play it off like it's not a big deal instead of actually trIng to appease the Guild, maybe offer some terms which would be acceptable to both sides, weren't particularly smart RP either.

I thought people have learned their lesson about public broadcastsfrom bases outside of house space after the Quantum situation but I guess I was wrong. I'm sorry but ever since the base was sold off by Leo, every single decision made by the new owners was a wrong one. And the base paid for it.
First and foremost, BMM announced JOINT Ventures on that post.

Secondly the base never changed IFF, always was Junker any admin can confirm this please?
EDITED: BMF whanted to buy the station from Junkers, not the other way around.
Thirdly, in no part of that post says it is salvaging Alland, heres the post
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=200792
Fourt: " trIng to appease the Guild" you say?
The Guild RP as you call it was weak and did not allow for ANY negotiation from the Gilds side, only unproven statements, ignored the content of the messages received and so on.
The Guild intent was very clear from the start:
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...tid=200815
So, putting aside the fact that every single point you made is either a LIE or is FALSE,
Il just say you came to this thread now,to run your mouth thinking your smarter than everyone else.
I will admit tho, was fun watching IMG Molly Coalition and BAF together.

Cheers
PS. Save your runts this is about the PoB system, not you. Beaumont was here since about the same time you joined, shame on all of you lot.

The post being referred to is this one you brain melt.
And in the message from IMG, they very clearly state that; A guild member noticed your scavenging operation in the Aland Shipyard wreck in Omega 3, where derelict ships from various groups, including ours, lay derelict. - it's unsettling that you're scavenging from the graveyard of our members who defended what's rightfully ours

So, Aland is being salvaged from their perspective.

(12-15-2023, 07:15 AM)SnakThree Wrote:

(12-14-2023, 11:42 PM)Lord Chaos Wrote: In the new system, bases that are nearly a decade old and served the comunity for years, like Beaumont Spire, can be easily dismantled with minimal effort.
A single thread is sufficient for initiating an attack, and the demolition of a PoB can be accomplished by a mere 4 or 5 players with little to no commitment.

Spire existed in Texas for a long time and all was good. It's when silly people decide to move POB to controversial or contested space when things get heated.

If people want long term POB, it takes more than a minute to plan out and choose best IFF and location for the role. You can't blame POB system when it's the owners' fault for getting wrecked.

Of course POB system is not perfect. But seeing so many POBs that safely exist shows it's possible if you put your mind to it.

(12-15-2023, 07:22 PM)Lord Chaos Wrote: Just to clarify, I didn't relocate the base, nor did I alter its IFF. I acquired it after it had been moved, motivated solely by the respect for Beaumont's longstanding presence on the server. My intention was to reactivate it in its new location. If the objective wasn't to destroy the base, why didn't IMG allow us to move it again?

There's a lot of rhetoric about being the "natural" faction, but the actions speak louder. The server witnessed your group's conduct, and now you're attempting to tarnish my reputation with unfounded allegations about decisions I supposedly made. The reality is, I didn't make any decisions; I simply tried to prevent a valuable asset from changing hands indiscriminately.

I'm indifferent to the base itself; its worth lies in the memories of those who played around it for years. Unlike many, I respect that history and chose to acquire it. However, it seems that some took issue with my post, perhaps out of envy, and resorted to the usual tactics – griefing.

In the end, Beaumont served its purpose well: it exposed the true nature of the griefers, showcased the reality of how things are done on the Discovery "RP" server, and highlighted how rules can be bent in certain directions when convenient. Despite constant attempts to tarnish my image with lies, Beaumont turned out to be the perfect bait, and all the detractors eagerly took it.

(12-15-2023, 07:22 PM)Lord Chaos Wrote: There's a lot of rhetoric about being the "natural" faction, but the actions speak louder. The server witnessed your group's conduct, and now you're attempting to tarnish my reputation with unfounded allegations about decisions I supposedly made. The reality is, I didn't make any decisions; I simply tried to prevent a valuable asset from changing hands indiscriminately.

I'm indifferent to the base itself; its worth lies in the memories of those who played around it for years. Unlike many, I respect that history and chose to acquire it. However, it seems that some took issue with my post, perhaps out of envy, and resorted to the usual tactics – griefing.

In the end, Beaumont served its purpose well: it exposed the true nature of the griefers, showcased the reality of how things are done on the Discovery "RP" server, and highlighted how rules can be bent in certain directions when convenient. Despite constant attempts to tarnish my image with lies, Beaumont turned out to be the perfect bait, and all the detractors eagerly took it.

(12-15-2023, 08:10 PM)SnakThree Wrote:

(12-15-2023, 07:22 PM)Lord Chaos Wrote: Just to clarify, I didn't relocate the base, nor did I alter its IFF. I acquired it after it had been moved, motivated solely by the respect for Beaumont's longstanding presence on the server. My intention was to reactivate it in its new location. If the objective wasn't to destroy the base, why didn't IMG allow us to move it again?

There's a lot of rhetoric about being the "natural" faction, but the actions speak louder. The server witnessed your group's conduct, and now you're attempting to tarnish my reputation with unfounded allegations about decisions I supposedly made. The reality is, I didn't make any decisions; I simply tried to prevent a valuable asset from changing hands indiscriminately.

I'm indifferent to the base itself; its worth lies in the memories of those who played around it for years. Unlike many, I respect that history and chose to acquire it. However, it seems that some took issue with my post, perhaps out of envy, and resorted to the usual tactics – griefing.

In the end, Beaumont served its purpose well: it exposed the true nature of the griefers, showcased the reality of how things are done on the Discovery "RP" server, and highlighted how rules can be bent in certain directions when convenient. Despite constant attempts to tarnish my image with lies, Beaumont turned out to be the perfect bait, and all the detractors eagerly took it.

I am fairly certain nobody cares about you as much as you think they do. If POB is in contested space, that solid RP reason to siege it. Roleplay is simple on Disco. You seem to be paranoid that someone is out to get you.

(12-15-2023, 11:25 PM)Prysin Wrote: It's pixels. The "stories built around the base" are merely stories, written on the forums. They could have been written with or without the base ingame

(12-16-2023, 06:02 AM)Saronsen Wrote: you moved beaumont spire from texas to the omegas somehow, you probably deserved it

Stewgar Wrote:I give kudos to the dev team for the changes that have already happened surrounding sieges, such as siege windows, and their continued attention into POBs.