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Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Elsdragon - 08-11-2009
TO anyone who says That" Council should be running Around outside!"They dont have the manpower to spare to go around Recruiting random people. Other unlawfuls dont WANT out, because it would be bad for buissness.Gallic royals Would never leave gallia, DUe to centuries of anti siris propganda, Plus seeing all the SIrians come in, And steal there goods
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Renzoku2 - 08-11-2009
' Wrote:I think your misunderstanding what a lot of people (like me) are feeling and Ill tell you what bugs me. I hate how gallia is the ONLY faction to have sanctions in place as deterrents (how about....I dont know just kill them if they are somewhere else like you would a rhinelander in liberty, instead of it being OH MY GOSH SANCTION the second they leave gallia...). A lot less hate would be in place if it was less sanctiony.
All I know is im almost done with my huge rp write up for the chevaliers de la guillotine. Maybe it will go through who knows but I happen to like gallia and feel it needs a bit more something. I personally feel you dont put in something half done but its in and the recent gallia allowed areas changes are a HUGE step in the right direction. Props to whomever made that up, if my knights of the guillotine idea doesnt go through im probably gonna make a council character since those changes.
The reason we don't simply kill the person who goes into areas they shouldnt with Gallic Equipment, is because we actually keep to our ZoI's. One rule violation doesnt justify another.
' Wrote:Oh I dont know, how about making it so council characters couldnt (until the changes) go out and conduct diplomacy, brigands and other factions couldnt mess with the guys in the taus (they want those BADLY if you read their info), junkers spying in and out (I feel gallian junkers should use gallian civillian tech till they get their own line like tenacity is making), any privateers like concept ect ect.
There are PLENTY of excuses for gallians outside of gallia that are in rp and the rules till the recent changes didnt allow that. THAT is why people have been pushing for that so dont give me this "MOMMY MOMMY" business because its quite honestly, crap.
Salorn, my friend. Said Attempts have been .... attempted. Note my previous mention of the "Treaty of Reunion" When that occured, people tarred, feathered, and torched it. Saying it was too early to be making "RP Changing Diplomacy" When all it did, was say "Bretonians and Council can trade NON-MILITARY supplies with each other, and they will keep all warships from each other's space"
The same was given to Kusari, trade + no warships.
Another condition of the agreement between both BAF and KNF was that their war not spill into Gallic Space.
However, because of the flames towards the Reunion Treaty, both were indefinitely postponed and have not been mentioned since.
' Wrote:first off" next lolwutting whine complaint" line and we have problems this INDIE VR FACTION BS STOPS you have the id youe equal if your inline with rp i know this as even the [LN] wil lsometimes take orders from my BC but thats besiode the point
second off galias implementation seemed litrally "zomg uber pwnzors we al ldie" we have the nomads allready they shoulda been more stealthy about it(keep majority of there tech levels hidden from sirus and the council keep themselfs to there rped areas(taus orkney borderworlds ectra)
3rd off you know damn well due to vanilla rp nobodys ever gonna ally again why would they bother hateing us they got left behind because they obviously dident try or failed or wanted to go for something bigger than pratical so its there fault
im not saying its not for everyone remove it im saying either explain to people it or make it more interactable (like say let the council ectra)out
ive read ther wiki but i stil ldont understand anything its funny you say dont abuse it so you can pew pew it but from what ive seen that will happen anyway with this grand (and stupid)invasion scheme in the works oi can see itnow
lolwutting galic battleships in new york when the GRN is only in the omercrons or some BS
I've seen no "indie vs faction bs". Lolwutters can be anyone, factionalized or independent.
See the above comment to Salorn for more on Council interaction with Sirius.
See previous comments about everything else.
' Wrote:The above bold letters was a poor translation for...
THIS IS SPARTA!
This has been a news broadcasting from the friendly newscaster.
*clap clap clap* You understood the reference, sir. Good good, I feared everyone didnt get it.
/sarcasm off -- Really? Was that post even necessary as it had nothing constructive, or god forbid... destructive, to add to the thread?
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Elsdragon - 08-11-2009
try holding the snarc tybalt, this aint Gallia
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Magoo! - 08-12-2009
Quote:Xenophobia - Fear of aliens.....Like Thex said earlier,
I'm not so inclined to believe that term applies. As Gallia has a hatred of Sirians, not a fear of Sirians.
An immigrant or stranger is called an alien. Thus, your interpretation of the dictionary fails. Or, perhaps its proof that Latin speakers a bajillion years ago had contact with Martians! I mean, surely they wouldn't have invented a word translated to 'alien' (i.e. Xeno) to be used with other humans.
And then that, of course, means that Liberty's #1 terrorist group are Nomads.
Anywho, I too appreciate all of Gallia's work, but eh... Its... Very... Uninviting. Its super-gynormous, with a large majority of the systems having the Police own the lanes, so you have to float across gigantic systems, dodging the random patrols of fighters with CDs made by Thor, and once you get to the Council system, you don't really want to leave.
Because you know you have to go back the same way. And as a result, I've only ever seen the Navy/Police up there. Also a deterrent for activity.
Quote:Problem 4: Sirian? This isn't Sirius little one.Does it fit into the map box? The box labeled "Sirius Sector"? Yes? Awesome.
Answer: THIS IS GALLIA!
... My post seems mildly pointless, but I'm soul-searching for the will to start writing my book.
Adieu.
... No pun intended.
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Quote:2 Members: Magoo!, DivineOooh! Somebody didn't really quit the forrruuuums!
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - jimmy Patterson - 08-12-2009
its own isolationism makes it uninviteing its damn near impossable to rep a charcter from what ive been told
and to the response about getting "left to die" simple make sure you dont get left behind and dont be inept about it
EDIT:/unsubscribes
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Elsdragon - 08-12-2009
Gallia=Isolationist.Until the underying RP changes, THat wont change. TO rep, Simply PM A Gallic player f the appropriate faction
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Divine - 08-12-2009
' Wrote:...
Oooh! Somebody didn't really quit the forrruuuums!
Yup, need to stay informed, doesnt mean i take part in any discussions, just droppin' random crap here and there.
Also, as Iam here already and you spotted me (not that i didnt made an other post earlier today, huzzah!) i can also voice my opinion.
Trust in Exile.
Believe in Igiss.
Play the game.
Bai.
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Renzoku2 - 08-12-2009
I'll forego the quotebox to comment each section...
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Like Thex said earlier,
An immigrant or stranger is called an alien. Thus, your interpretation of the dictionary fails. Or, perhaps its proof that Latin speakers a bajillion years ago had contact with Martians! I mean, surely they wouldn't have invented a word translated to 'alien' (i.e. Xeno) to be used with other humans.
Seems its time for some counter-references
Alien isnt exclusively for extraterrestrial beings.... Thats what the term "extraterrestrial" is used for.
As also said earlier, Alien...Xeno....Xenophobia... applies to all aliens, even those of the same species.
But my point on the matter is that Xenophobia, as phobias are associated with the ""Fear of Something"" is simply the wrong word.
That said, I now give you a list of non-phobic words that are just the opposite, as the word "Misos" used in them means "Hatred" as opposed to the word "Phobos" meaning "Fear"
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Alien isnt exclusively for extraterrestrial beings.... Thats what the term "extraterrestrial" is used for.
Webster Dictionary Wrote:* Main Entry: 1alien
* Pronunciation: \ˈā-lē-ən, ˈāl-yən\
* Function: adjective
* Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin alienus, from alius
* Date: 14th century
1 a : belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing : strange b : relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : foreign c : exotic 1
2 : differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility
As also said earlier, Alien...Xeno....Xenophobia... applies to all aliens, even those of the same species.
But my point on the matter is that Xenophobia, as phobias are associated with the ""Fear of Something"" is simply the wrong word.
That said, I now give you a list of non-phobic words that are just the opposite, as the word "Misos" used in them means "Hatred" as opposed to the word "Phobos" meaning "Fear"
Quote:misotramontanism: A hater of anything foreign or of the unknown; such as, one who hates what is beyond the mountains.
misotramontanist: One who is averse to anything foreign or to the unknown; literally one who hates what is beyond the mountains.
misotyrannist: A hater of tyranny.
misoxene: A hater of strangers.
misoxenist: One who hates strangers.
misoxeny: The hatred of strangers.
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And then that, of course, means that Liberty's #1 terrorist group are Nomads.
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Anywho, I too appreciate all of Gallia's work, but eh... Its... Very... Uninviting. Its super-gynormous, with a large majority of the systems having the Police own the lanes, so you have to float across gigantic systems, dodging the random patrols of fighters with CDs made by Thor, and once you get to the Council system, you don't really want to leave.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Because you know you have to go back the same way. And as a result, I've only ever seen the Navy/Police up there. Also a deterrent for activity.
Your right, it is a deterrent. You either want to RP in Gallia, or you Don't.
Numerous people as it stands already RP in or With Gallia. They -Want- to RP in Gallia.
Numerous people as it stands already avoid RP in or With Gallia. Tehy -Don't Want- to RP in Gallia
----These are the people who whine about the deterrents you mentioned. Remember, these are people who don't even want to RP in Gallia, whining about an area that doesnt involve them.
----My advice? Get to the point where you decide "Ok, I do want to RP in Gallia", live with the risks and troubles. Or simply.......stay out. Theres enough people who want to RP in Gallia to make things interesting.
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Numerous people as it stands already RP in or With Gallia. They -Want- to RP in Gallia.
Numerous people as it stands already avoid RP in or With Gallia. Tehy -Don't Want- to RP in Gallia
----These are the people who whine about the deterrents you mentioned. Remember, these are people who don't even want to RP in Gallia, whining about an area that doesnt involve them.
----My advice? Get to the point where you decide "Ok, I do want to RP in Gallia", live with the risks and troubles. Or simply.......stay out. Theres enough people who want to RP in Gallia to make things interesting.
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Does it fit into the map box? The box labeled "Sirius Sector"? Yes? Awesome.
As i've said before. It was posted somewhere that "Even though Gallia is represented on the Sirian Map, it is actually far outside the Sirius System, a system of its own"
My guess as to why its on the Sirian Map? Game Coding Limitations or it was simply easier to place it on the Sirian Map instead of going through the trouble to make a new map for Gallia and make it swap out the Sirius Map when someone entered Gallia.
My guess as to why its on the Sirian Map? Game Coding Limitations or it was simply easier to place it on the Sirian Map instead of going through the trouble to make a new map for Gallia and make it swap out the Sirius Map when someone entered Gallia.
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Thexare - 08-12-2009
' Wrote:Numerous people as it stands already avoid RP in or With Gallia. Tehy -Don't Want- to RP in GalliaNot necessarily. It's possible to want to RP somewhere and simply be left unable to due to unreasonable game issues.
----These are the people who whine about the deterrents you mentioned. Remember, these are people who don't even want to RP in Gallia, whining about an area that doesnt involve them.
Let's bring this to a smaller scale for an example
I play mostly Outcasts, as would be made relatively obvious by viewing my posts. This means that I have business in... most of Sirius, but primarily Omicrons Alpha, Beta, and Eta; the Taus; Bretonia (Cape Wrath); and part of the Sigmas.
Except I never go to Eta. You see, I fly a Scimitar most of the time as an Outcast, and the ridiculous Corsair spawns make doing anything remotely interesting there nearly impossible.
You see what I'm getting at here?
Hasnt it gone on long enough? - Renzoku2 - 08-12-2009
Not exactly, Thexare. Seeing as other people don't have issue with these same things you consider as a problem, or a barrier, preventing you from doing something.
How can something prevent one person from doing something, but not someone else?