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Xeno Blazer - mjolnir - 03-18-2008
Eagle is still bigger isn't it?
And Liberator is just about the smallest LF in the game...
I do have huge experience pirating in all kinds of ships... and yes transport turrets are hard to dodge.. but it is doable.. I believe I raised some ~120 mil credits from pirating in Slipstream/Sabre and you know that you get money like 50% of the time.. or less.
last think about guns: Hellfurry: 446/130 = 3.43 efficiency, Vampire 431/102 = 4.22 .... damage is very much the same. But I wouldn't say they are "very similar".. I would say the Hellfurries from those high-tech Lane Hackers completely suck compared to "civilian" guns from a mining guild.
And yes.. mount 6 Hellfuries and go pirate :)
Anyway this is going nowhere....
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About the Blazer MKII... McNeo's and mine stats are the same... HF ones. And I hope it will gets those.
Xeno Blazer - chopper - 03-18-2008
I simply don't think it should be as fast as eagle.
If it's smaller then Eagle, then no way.
I know, it's a HF, but look at the Taiidan HF. It's too good.
I think it should have Marauder's agility tops. That's 1.325.
Star line is pretty much weird.
From Starflier which is agile, to Startracker which is a brick, and then to Starblazer which is agile again..
Anyway, 5 9's is good, I agree with that.
It will have the similar power as Greyhound.. Though it will obviously be more agile and smaller..
I'm comparing it to Greyhound because both Rogues and Xenos have very bad ships. (Eagle and Falcon are exceptions!)
Xeno Blazer - aster - 03-18-2008
' Wrote:I simply don't think it should be as fast as eagle.I must have misunderstood something
If it's smaller then Eagle, then no way.
I know, it's a HF, but look at the Taiidan HF. It's too good.
I think it should have Marauder's agility tops. That's 1.325.
Star line is pretty much weird.
From Starflier which is agile, to Startracker which is a brick, and then to Starblazer which is agile again..
Anyway, 5 9's is good, I agree with that.
It will have the similar power as Greyhound.. Though it will obviously be more agile and smaller..
I'm comparing it to Greyhound because both Rogues and Xenos have very bad ships. (Eagle and Falcon are exceptions!)
It appears you want the HF to be less agile than the VHF eagle... and have one less gun... and have a bigger profile... and have a weaker powerplant...
I'm not sure how popular the ship would be.
Xeno Blazer - pipsqueak - 03-18-2008
hmmm you know he may have a point with the star tracker.
Admins, any chance of tweaking the agility of the star tracker so it matches its class of fighters?
Xeno Blazer - McNeo - 03-18-2008
It should have at least the same agility as the Eagle, but I still hold that it should have slightly more, as the Hammerhead has slightly more agility than the Manta.
It is pretty large too, as Doom shows...
But seriously, who is going to fly it if its slower than the Eagle with less guns, a smaller powerplant and less armour?
Xeno Blazer - chopper - 03-18-2008
It's still smaller then the Eagle.
And it's a normal thing, Star line is weaker then Eagle line of ships.
Hawk, Falcon and Eagle should be superior to Star-line.
And as I said, you can't compare it with the eagle, compare it with other weak HF's, like Greyhound or Marauder.
Xenos shouldn't get any better HF then Rogues have. They both deserve weaker ships, compared with the rest.
Plus, Imrdy said it's going to be Xeno only, not Civilian. So, you can't compare it with the Eagle because Eagle is for anyone.
Also, it's gonna help, because non-xenos won't spam it and it will probably have better chances to get in the mod as Xeno ship.
I'm not saying it should be weak, I proposed an average thing for a HF.
5 guns (Greyhound has 4)
Around 9k energy
1.325 agility (Greyhound has 1.180...)
Smaller then Greyhound (I guess, at least)
7k Armor, with some 45 bots/bats
Torp/CD slot
Mine layer
CM
This ship would be better then Greyhound, simply because Greyhound is too slow for a HF.
I don't know about the shield though.. Should it use class 10 or HF shield?
Edit :
And yes, no one mentioned this but.. Marauder has Eagle hitbox.. And less agility.. So, it's a normal thing for HF's to be less agile.
Xeno Blazer - Vape - 03-18-2008
Ok good work on the model Rdy
i like how it llooks.
JUST PLEASE CAN IT HAVE TWO CLASS 10 SLOTS?????
because i love the starblazer to pieces (ive owned one for a week) and would like to see it stand a chance against HFs.
Xeno Blazer - mjolnir - 03-18-2008
' Wrote:It's still smaller then the Eagle.
And it's a normal thing, Star line is weaker then Eagle line of ships.
Hawk, Falcon and Eagle should be superior to Star-line.
And as I said, you can't compare it with the eagle, compare it with other weak HF's, like Greyhound.
cmon.. Greyhound is completely different... with 12.4 powerplant.. and lvl 10 shield.
1.35 turning, good agility
4 lvl 9 +1 lvl 8 slot
9k powerplant
and lvl 9 shield
And it's ok.
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Taidan HF is not unbalanced... it has only lvl 9 shield.. and 9k powerplant... while it has same agility as say a Kushan VHF.
Xeno Blazer - chopper - 03-18-2008
Greyhound is different, I didn't say it wasn't.
And it's good for a Rogue ship. But it simply sucks compared to other HF's.
It's even slower then most VHF's, which have just as big power supply + 6 guns..
I didn't say that Taiidan HF is unbalanced.. I said it's too good.
Meaning, no HF's should ever be better then it.
It's the maxed potential for a HF.
My point is that Xenos and Rogues have sucky ships.
And that they should have sucky ships.
Xeno Blazer - Boss - 03-18-2008
So that's where the bloody shield is. Good to know next time I have to blow one into scrap. Rdy, it's looking good. I am gonna get tired of making new chars for all these ships you, AoM, and the others are making...
Oh. My. Goodness. Three pages since I started typing????