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Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Ogris - 01-05-2012
FR5's are taken care of by admins for a good reason. In general this is just a horrible idea. Neither the leaders nor the rest of the community are mature enough for something like this to work. But people already went over why this wont work in the thread so i dont think i really need to elaborate more.
' Wrote:P.S. Make it possible (in a rule) to update the list and revoke FR5 without sanctioning FLeader. In case something was forgotten/misinterpreted.
IF leaders start to get allowed to FR5. They should be held not to the usual standard, but a MUCH higher one. FR5 isn't a "joke", misinterpretations should NOT happen. IF a leader cant be bothered to go over something like this twice and get a second opinion, he should not be doing it. IMO if the admin team revokes a FR5, the sanctions should be VERY VERY VERY harsh(I'm talking first offence you're out of the server for a week). You're not going to make people uphold certain standard if you give them the ability to just go "meh, misinterpretation lol".
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - gafwmn - 01-05-2012
I have to vote no.This would be too easily abused.
Even the blonde guy can see that.....
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Dab - 01-05-2012
Admins work as a quality checker on FR5 requests. There are plenty of FR5 requests filed by faction leaders that are -not- justified. These get denied.
If all faction leaders were trustworthy and mature, this proposal would be fine. But since that is not the case, it cannot be done. I can also guarantee the admin team would shoot this down too.
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Loken - 01-05-2012
I would like it if I could do this, but nobody else.
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - dodike - 01-05-2012
' Wrote:I would like it if I could do this, but nobody else.I don't think anyone but Loken should have the power. Perhaps some admins too but that's it.
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Echo 7-7 - 01-06-2012
Voted yes for the benefits of efficiency.
However, leaders should not have carte blanche to run amok. public listing of FR5 actions, if necessary.
If screening of faction leaders is needed, then let us be judged and not be found wanting.
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Ingenious - 01-06-2012
' Wrote:[color=#AA0000]No individual or clique should have the power to bar another from playing roles that fit within the structure but are disliked, different, or portrayed by a person that is disliked or different. That does not produce good role play, that produces factionbots.
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Markus_Janus - 01-06-2012
I am going to vote no.
I have heard in skype chats some pretty stupid ideas for wanting to get people FR5'd with the reason it was dropped being they knew admin would not go for it.
If we take the work load off admin and then create a list that they have to go through to make sure it is ok, how do we lower their workload?
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Soul Reaper - 01-06-2012
Vote: Yes.
Allowing Official Faction leaders to FR5 people themselves. - Hone - 01-06-2012
So it seems most people's problems with this are;
A: Fations are biased, and we dont trust them.
B: Fation LEADERS are not screened, only the actual faction, before admins make it official.
So, taking this into account, how about if this right is granted to the faction leader specifically?
Allow me to explain;
The faction submits an officialdom request, the admins currently evaluate the faction before making it official. If it passes their screening, I think the leader has earned the right to be able to FR5 himself.
However, I propose, that if the leadership changes, then though the faction will stay official, the faction will lose the right to FR5 people itself, (it can still submit requests to admins, as factions currently do) until the admins are satisfied that the new leader/direction of the faction, is up to the standard of the old.
Also to those saying it would need a list of those FR5d ect, please see my first post, where I suggested this myself. I think an appropriate regulating measure would be; if the admins think the RP behind the FR5 is insufficient, then the FR5 will be undone, and the faction is not allowed to re-FR5 that person for that offence. (they must commit a new offence to be FR5d.
Also, I am ONLY recommending .9 FR5s here, so the recipients can bribe ect, their way back to the good books - because that is part of freelancer's RP. And factions may not FR5 someone for the same offence twice.
E.G. You FR5 someone, and they mission grind their way back, you cant FR5 them again, because inrp you have forgiven them thanks to their work for you.