' Wrote:Kiggles, I'm sorry, but the SF were gone. There were only one or two active members, the Admins were close to removing it from official factions, just the same as the AW, and Hyperwave gave it to me to try and bring it back to life.
Thats what I'm trying to do: Trying to bring Bretonian RP back to life.
That may not be what the SF was in the past, but that's what it came close to during my time here. The SF was the major, commanding Bretonian faction, it died. One way or another, the SF would not exist today, either the admins would have axed it, or I could absorb it into what was then the QCO, and is now the QCRF.
Now, I admit, the QCO was not exactly a healthy faction, the same as Bretonia was rather empty. Bretonia is still empty, but I am trying my damned hardest to fix Bretonia, and bring it into the sort of Strong, Solid RP, that I expect from such an RP server as discovery.
You aren't helping. I gave you Commodore status, because it seems you have seniority over Stratus, which, I might add, is the same rank as any of my characters. I'm offering you a vote in the admiralty board, which means a voice in the future of the faction. All this is a gesture of my goodwill, for a faction in general, and you in particular, and you have spit on it.
Please don't make me regret my decision. I have tried to be even handed an magnanimous, but at the end of the day, I do have final say over any Bretonian faction, and that is essentially what Hype gave me when he gave me Salisbury.

' Wrote:Sorry I have not posted earlier but I have not read the forums for a few days.

Ok now to go the opposite way and be SF centric, I personaly think that the SF tag should be kept in some way as there is an extreamly large amount of history behind it (once asked Lancer about it and took him over an hour to explain) aswell as being one of the oldest factions here.

Though that is probaly only my opinion and no one else will agree but I am just attached as I joined the SF on my first day here and have always been a part of it for my 2 years of playing discovery.

Also as to not using the second part of the name (the one for ship class), yes it is true it puts us at a disadvantage when people use it so they can bring ships that work well against ours but I do like using them as it can also work the other way where people bring ships to make the fight a good balance rather than bringing a battleship to take on 2 fighters. (though we seem to lack people who like fair fights these days)

As to making everyone have a Hussar and a Templar I do agree that everyone should have a Hussar or a Templar but I feel it is rather unfair to make people have both as to be honest if I had a Hussar it would only get used to make sure it does not get removed in a player wipe as it is a really sad light fighter (but I wont go down that road in this thread)

Kiggles:mellow:

' Wrote:Rabid Oscar I understand how you feel about this, but when you left things were still OK with SF. This is what happened in your absence.

1) SF got badly flamed for using out of OORP ships and guns. And they WERE OORP. I was there, I know, I was a noob, and guilty too. (My SF guy was in an Avenger.. I at least got SA's permission..)

2) As a result, a lot of members left.

3) After that, Firebird left.

4) Hyperwave tried to reform it and hung on for a bit. Ships were in RP, and things were recovering.

5) Another loss of members and interest, and Hyperwave left.

6) Hyperwave gives SF to Unselie

The SF you knew and loved is gone. Join the QCR, I did.

Looks like the UOG are about to give us a run for our money...

' Wrote:Hyperwave discussed it with his commanders, I believe. It was wither away or join the other Bretonian faction.