Quote:I suggest you read the IDs a bit more closely. The Intelligence factions can do a LOT outside their ZoI. Inside, yes, they act more as navy then anything. Outside, they act as a quasilawful force that can play dirty against enemies of the house.

Yes, was going to point that out too. People seem to have mixed up "Zone of Influence" and "Zone of Operations" (by which I mean the areas where the faction would be interested to go; of course, if it's outside the ZoI, the faction is usually limited to self-defense in terms of PvP).

Intelligence Faction IDs have actually got quite flexible (now allowing us to do more things in our Zone of Operations), which is good. As I once said, I can see your reasoning for removing cruisers from LSF/BDM/BIS/KPT IDs, and I do agree that bringing intelligence capfleets for cargo piracy isn't an option. Nor is bringing capfleets somewhere they shouldn't be at all (like a hypothetical situation when LSF would be able to deploy LABCs somewhere in Orkney to hit GRN).

On the other hand, removing the cruisers completely seems to be a concern for quite a few people. Therefore, I assume that some sort of compromise could be reached here. Like allowing intelligence factions to deploy cruisers only in their respective House space and surrounding systems (after all, I think those organisations are resourceful enough to be able to do that), and in the Omicrons (because that's where such factions could use some muscle).

E.g., =LSF=Mount.Iliamna (our main LABC) has been mostly deployed to defend Zone-21 and Alaska so far. We also may have deployed it when there was some real emergency in Liberty So, it would make sense if the =LSF= were able to deploy it in the Omicrons as well (since those will be just one jump away from our Guard System in 4.87; plus, the Order can hunt us freely now, so I guess some means to retaliate wouldn't hurt). After all, there is no specific authority there, so secrecy is not the major concern there. Security is, however.

Quasilawful stuff in foreign houses or far outside the Zone of Influence should be done with gunboats and below, I agree to that. So, I can imagine something like this:

Quote:- Can demand traders who belong to corporations that are declared unlawful in Liberty to drop all cargo and destroy ships if they refuse to comply within and outside their Zone of Influence; cruisers can do so only within their Zone of Influence;
- Can hunt ships of organisations Liberty considers hostile within and outside their Zone of Influence; cruisers can do so only within their Zone of Influence;

Now, what would that change achieve? Cruisers would actually become the means of House defense and IRP forward bases for deep space operations. Outside their ZoI they'd be able to attack only in self-defense (e.g., if the entire group is getting attacked). A cruiser is spotted 5K away from a corporate trader who's being raided by the intel snub group? Then that's the cruiser pilot's fault, because he'd be breaking the rule stated in his ID, I guess.

Of course, I'm looking at the situation from LSF standpoint right now, so I guess my colleagues from BDM, BIS and KPT might have different ideas. But that's how the =LSF= would be using the cruisers we have (should the ID include cruisers after all). I'm sure that BDM and KPT at least are inrerested in the Omicrons as well, not to mention that the Omicrons aren't that far away from Rheinland and Kusari.