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RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Sabru - 03-13-2014
(03-13-2014, 09:37 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Core 4 in 1 hour ? Just disable the plugin - this is a joke, to get to core 4 you need a few months, when 10 bs can take it out in 1 hour, did i mention time zones? what a joke
(03-13-2014, 09:47 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote:(03-13-2014, 09:38 PM)Moveit56 Wrote: Well. Perhaps if you don't give people reason to shoot your base, things would go just fine. Not a worry in the world. It's not impossible you know.
You dont get it do, as an angel I dont suppose you alert new people to where they come to , you know - the skype world, the oorp world - sure you dont.
People always find a reason, as a matter of fact people dont need any reason - bullying is enough - So you can continue live in that bubble and have a skype security, but don't you dare to condem new people who come here to endless hours of work while others pound it in minutes. What a shame.
all thats a bit rich coming from you tel. having to RP for core enhancement just prohibits lolbases from springing up as core 4 overnight.
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Zen_Mechanics - 03-13-2014
Right, so Im supposed to spend five months filing srp for cores on a hessian station - when corsairs can simply take it out while I sleep. Given your changes theres no reason for anyone to build any stations anymore, and some unofficial factions are doing just that - so it seems that every update you pull a screw from this mod and its begining to break down, and don't be too over confident, just because most people here didnt condemn this change doesn't mean people dont condemn this change. I'm sure the aftermath is going to be a lot more intresting then the event itself, and I can tell you for sure what name they will remember.
Last minute edit :
Also, if you are incapable of understanding what you have just done, perhaps you no longer fit to be the "FLhooker". No one is a saint, including me - but I don't favor one side over the other and tell people to shove it, except the ones who do deserve.
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Kazinsal - 03-13-2014
Tel, I'm the FLHooker because my job in the dev team is to maintain and write the FLHook plugins we use, not because I claim to be the lord of plugin balance.
You're just grasping at straws now, aren't you?
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - spacedragon - 03-13-2014
sorry for 3time-post, I feel really ignored now and I am
STILL WAITING for REPLY and ANSWERS
(...please dear Kazinsal)
Have these changes already been made now?
! - my base (core 4) seems to need TWO TIMES MORE Reinforced Alloy now (~6000 in ~8 hrs). - !
That's NOT -like promised- 2 TIMES EASIER TO SUPPLY BUT ALMOST 2 TIMES MORE WORK!
(It's also NOT REALLY 2 TIMES EASIER to supply a base, just because it needs half amount of RA, it will also need Food, Oxygen and Water!)
So, what we get is:
- TWO TIMES MORE WORK TO SUPPLY and in exchange
- FOUR TIMES EASIER TO GET DESTROYED
fair deal?
PLEASE POST FACTS about:
How long does it take to BUILD a core4-base with 10 people?
why does it now only take ~90 minutes for 10 people to destroy this work?
because some people like to shoot around ...???
fair deal? ...time to leave the game? ...time for new devs/admins with GOOD ideas?
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Zen_Mechanics - 03-13-2014
Yes, I will cling on every little piece of wood work there is - because I have an obligation to ensure that all the professional complainers who wanted this change so badly can go and scream one more time in front of a mirror. You carefully ignore the facts, and you airbrushed so many arguements that people raised that Im just surprised why you even bother replying. No one has ever said that the attacking side shouldnt have a chance, but it has been said and done ( BY YOU ) against the defending side.
Not only you ask people to srp 2/3/4 in a 4 months period - you also let them know in advance, that even if they manage to bring it to core 4 - any dedicated bunch of hessies/corsairs/council/rogues can simply take it out in less than two hours, Add to that, most people live half way around the world.
Tell me exactly how these facts fit the "balance" you once said, It doesn't - so stop defending it and get real.
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Kazinsal - 03-13-2014
Spacedragon, I will figure out what is with the repair functionality and get back to you.
Tel, I bother replying because I am pleased in the knowledge that there isn't a single person on the forums outside of your ZA buddies who actually agrees with you in any way about this matter.
If you choose to try building a base in Hessian territory that is hostile to the Hessians, then you should not expect it to survive. Same goes for Corsairs, or Council, or Rogues, or Liberty Navy, or GRN, or even the ZA.
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Zen_Mechanics - 03-13-2014
Again with the ZA - actually I was planning to build a station in 54 - you know, a hessian turf - but ill take your word that sairs cant get there - And what about THIS
How long does it take to BUILD a core4-base with 10 people?
why does it now only take ~90 minutes for 10 people to destroy this work?
because some people like to shoot around ...???
fair deal? ...time to leave the game? ...time for new devs/admins with GOOD ideas?
Are you afraid to tell him the ugly truth? is that it? You keep ignoring the crucial stuff.
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Kazinsal - 03-13-2014
Bases can be easily built with OORP powertraders, right?
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Zen_Mechanics - 03-13-2014
I don't know, but even if so - you still didnt anwser that question - is that fair, and is that balanced, the whole 10 vs 10
RE: Developer Notice: Player Owned Bases Update - Kazinsal - 03-13-2014
It takes a fair bit of time to build a core 4 base because RP is needed -- this is assumed to involve RPing with forces surrounding your base in order to secure it from capital fleets that may want it demolished.
Basically, the RP period required for upgrading through the different cores is there to give you some time to create invulnerability through diplomacy.