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RE: WAR! when? - Emperor Tekagi - 06-08-2018
Screaming for other wars to happen when in some cases players even slow it down, idk dude. But uh.. Server population dropped rapidly ever since the Russian IP ban. You could have figured out that we had ~25 eastern semi-afk traders populating the server.
RE: WAR! when? - Isha - 06-08-2018
(06-08-2018, 08:20 PM)Titan* Wrote: bumping the thread, server activity dropped a lot. Its around 15-60 everytime
so WAR! WHEN?
I guess it's the Russian lads crisis, or was it fixed already?
And while I'm all for wars, I'd like some more love to be given to GRN-RestOfTheDemocracies war. Possibly a monetary reward system, like it was used in some events. Those events should happen all the time and be roting between areas from time to time. There's nothing better than passive money generating while shooting in a contested system
RE: WAR! when? - Kyoi - 06-09-2018
I think it is absurd that even clueless players are allowed to have an influence on activity-impacting story decisions and can destroy activity because of incompetence and poor planning.
Kusari in particular is a total failure. Not even worth logging into that region or keeping a ship there. I've seen more KPT and KNF outside Kusari and it's not rocket science why that is. The overall attitude of the players in that region is frankly appalling and is reflected in the story directions being taken as well.
Meanwhile people are more concerned with working out irrelevant rp details while activity is a flatline at 0.
RE: WAR! when? - Wesker - 06-09-2018
(06-09-2018, 04:18 AM)Kyoi Wrote: I think it is absurd that even clueless players are allowed to have an influence on activity-impacting story decisions and can destroy activity because of incompetence and poor planning.
Kusari in particular is a total failure. Not even worth logging into that region or keeping a ship there. I've seen more KPT and KNF outside Kusari and it's not rocket science why that is. The overall attitude of the players in that region is frankly appalling and is reflected in the story directions being taken as well.
Meanwhile people are more concerned with working out irrelevant rp details while activity is a flatline at 0.
The price of consistent RP.
Except when Gallia comes knocking, than all notions of that go out the door.
RE: WAR! when? - E X O D I T E - 06-09-2018
* E X O D I T E does the @Omicega summoning ritual
I heard "Kusari", "war", and "Gallia".
RE: WAR! when? - Jessitrescott - 06-09-2018
(06-09-2018, 04:18 AM)Kyoi Wrote: Meanwhile people are more concerned with working out irrelevant rp details while activity is a flatline at 0.
pretty much this, most arguments are based on kusari cant afford another war or RM cant afford another war... well good luck with 0 activity and no events then, (you know i'm actually more worried this is what they want).
RE: WAR! when? - Emperor Tekagi - 06-09-2018
(06-09-2018, 04:18 AM)Kyoi Wrote: I think it is absurd that even clueless players are allowed to have an influence on activity-impacting story decisions and can destroy activity because of incompetence and poor planning.
Kusari in particular is a total failure. Not even worth logging into that region or keeping a ship there. I've seen more KPT and KNF outside Kusari and it's not rocket science why that is. The overall attitude of the players in that region is frankly appalling and is reflected in the story directions being taken as well.
Meanwhile people are more concerned with working out irrelevant rp details while activity is a flatline at 0.
Wtf?
It was Kusari who complained about Sigma war taking too long to get active. It was the GMG playerbase who tried to block it. Also are you seriously taking KPT indies (intelligence service duh) with their sometimes rather weird approaches as example now? Indies do whatever they want.
We don't do a lot more than RPs atm simply because it's a requirement that both sides not simply shoot at each other right away. Rheinland and Kusari are allied and pushing this to a war in S-21 needs RP. A few elements involved work slower than others, sure. But you should stop talk stuff.
And we received the possibility to influence Kusari after years of forcefully kept alive civil war, using and coordinating this is what happens. Not us trying to slow down progress.
I really "love" the community for things as above. Always saying stuff about things they have barely any insight on. Also Wesker, that Gallia thing in Kyushu back then. Do we need to warm up a weird situation which due to a lack of story clarity back then was just removed by devs.
To put it short;
We agreed to RP it all out. Side stuff is just logical but not too much.
Also it should be obvious that we value this RP a lot.
Activity in Kusari is low due to many factors, a missing war is just one. People like you are another.
RE: WAR! when? - Thunderer - 06-09-2018
I really like the Kusari dudes and, as much as I like how Bretonians RP, I must admit that I'm jealous of Kusari. I'd gladly fly there, but I'm not a 100% RP guy, rather 50/50 PvP/RP. And there's nothing to PvP with in Kusari, except a couple of occasional newbie Order caps doing missions in Tohoku, or, very rarely, when the BD or the Corsairs besiege a lawful POB. And it's been months since that.
As far as I know, war will break out. That is good. But it should also be a good war, because Kusari and, I hope, Rheinland, value their RP. Don't hurry with it, don't start it for silly reasons. See what situation Gallia is, for starting a war too rashly (and, well, starting to exist too rashly, too). Don't allow plot holes. I've seen the recent Wilde post in the Kusari claiming Sigma-21 news thread, and I think it's one of them. I think that we shouldn't start every war because of the Nomads. Starting them for human reasons is the best RP, in my opinion.
Kusari is still recovering from a defeat by Gallia, and a civil war. Its government is a coalition of opposing parties, and it is unstable. I guess it would be realistic if public support was lacking. Kusari's current situation reminds me of France after WWII: its reputation battered to the ground, but its people still proud, and eager to recover the lost good image. Their government needs a quick victory in an easy war to gain the love of its people.
Now let's take a look at Rheinland. Defeated by Liberty, plagued by the Hessians far and wide, at war with the Corsairs, at war with the GMG, reeling from the Munich disaster (which was, by the way, caused by Kusarians testing some technology on Augsburg). They are, or at least look like, a weak target that is at the brink of their morale and has overextended its forces. If Kusari occupies the Sigmas, with the GMG's approval of course, and holds them for not very long, Rheinland can be starved out of fuel and it would sue for terms.
However, Rheinland is a proud House, too. And their government has issues as well. They've lost the war with Liberty, they've sold a whole planet to Synth foods, they are not handling the Munich disaster well, and Hessians roam the lanes and krieg any bases they like. Not to mention the unemployment and poverty that chronically trouble Rheinland since the Nomad war. Rheinland has a battleship in Sigma-21, because it has claimed Sigma-21 for itself. Now imagine that battleship retreats, Rheinland gives up its claim, and its people find out about it. Would the Rheinland government manage to stay in power? It's a very hard question, and they don't want to answer it. It is easier to resist Kusari. And Kusari isn't a very strong enemy anyways -- Rheinland already defeated them in 801 and, if I remember well, even entered New Tokyo. If Rheinland wins this war, it is a guarantee for its government to stay in power. But if it backs down, all the revolutionary movements will probably grow even stronger.
RE: WAR! when? - Kaze - 06-09-2018
(06-09-2018, 09:55 AM)Thunderer Wrote: I really like the Kusari dudes and, as much as I like how Bretonians RP, I must admit that I'm jealous of Kusari. I'd gladly fly there, but I'm not a 100% RP guy, rather 50/50 PvP/RP. And there's nothing to PvP with in Kusari, except a couple of occasional newbie Order caps doing missions in Tohoku, or, very rarely, when the BD or the Corsairs besiege a lawful POB. And it's been months since that.
As far as I know, war will break out. That is good. But it should also be a good war, because Kusari and, I hope, Rheinland, value their RP. Don't hurry with it, don't start it for silly reasons. See what situation Gallia is, for starting a war too rashly (and, well, starting to exist too rashly, too). Don't allow plot holes. I've seen the recent Wilde post in the Kusari claiming Sigma-21 news thread, and I think it's one of them. I think that we shouldn't start every war because of the Nomads. Starting them for human reasons is the best RP, in my opinion.
Kusari is still recovering from a defeat by Gallia, and a civil war. Its government is a coalition of opposing parties, and it is unstable. I guess it would be realistic if public support was lacking. Kusari's current situation reminds me of France after WWII: its reputation battered to the ground, but its people still proud, and eager to recover the lost good image. Their government needs a quick victory in an easy war to gain the love of its people.
Now let's take a look at Rheinland. Defeated by Liberty, plagued by the Hessians far and wide, at war with the Corsairs, at war with the GMG, reeling from the Munich disaster (which was, by the way, caused by Kusarians testing some technology on Augsburg). They are, or at least look like, a weak target that is at the brink of their morale and has overextended its forces. If Kusari occupies the Sigmas, with the GMG's approval of course, and holds them for not very long, Rheinland can be starved out of fuel and it would sue for terms.
However, Rheinland is a proud House, too. And their government has issues as well. They've lost the war with Liberty, they've sold a whole planet to Synth foods, they are not handling the Munich disaster well, and Hessians roam the lanes and krieg any bases they like. Not to mention the unemployment and poverty that chronically trouble Rheinland since the Nomad war. Rheinland has a battleship in Sigma-21, because it has claimed Sigma-21 for itself. Now imagine that battleship retreats, Rheinland gives up its claim, and its people find out about it. Would the Rheinland government manage to stay in power? It's a very hard question, and they don't want to answer it. It is easier to resist Kusari. And Kusari isn't a very strong enemy anyways -- Rheinland already defeated them in 801 and, if I remember well, even entered New Tokyo. If Rheinland wins this war, it is a guarantee for its government to stay in power. But if it backs down, all the revolutionary movements will probably grow even stronger.
Solid review. 10/10, Thundie. You have put in words how it was, how it is and how it should be.
I support this man view.
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I support this man view.
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RE: WAR! when? - Laz - 06-09-2018
(06-09-2018, 09:55 AM)Thunderer Wrote: (which was, by the way, caused by Kusarians testing some technology on Augsburg)
I'm fairly sure that part was retconned because it involved Kishiro and Samura working together. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I just remember hearing that somewhere.