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RE: Deterrence OF application - Saronsen - 03-21-2022
DTR doesn't exist to play with others, just themselves. 45 days of activity and almost all of it is missions/pve zones/afk group jerk-off session
It'd be best for you to just let them do their thing, since clearly they don't want to interact with you besides dog piles.
RE: Deterrence OF application - Czechmate - 03-21-2022
(03-21-2022, 12:15 AM)Krumai Wrote: Alright, feedback time from the K'Hara| side:I must say hearing this feedback from K'Hara of all things is very puzzling to me - your faction is proudly touting ganking and being the antagonist, not hesitating to fire everything on caps, snubs even transports.
I personally witnessed this battle while cloaked. What I saw was horrible: You basically didn't give your opponent a fair fight. Two times, I repeat, two times. One in Delta and one in Xi, all on the same day. It was painful and cringey to see a whole fleet of caps chasing after a group of snubs.
Honestly I would say, even though you do a good job with forum RP, you just need to learn how fair fights are played. You don't shove caps in a pure snub brawl and expect an easy victory. In reality, this will only force the snubs to complain about your actions. I myself didn't bother to fight because I knew a whole fleet of cruisers would come for me.
And also there were several indies who probably were new. I'd honestly expect you to tell them to stay away if they are not flying a snub. Instead you just acted jokingly which of course doesn't help in a fight.
- From one of the K'Hara| Advisors
Your people can't say "Omicrons are dangerous, nomads don't rp" and then come here and be taken seriously haha, that's not how this works.
RE: Deterrence OF application - Czechmate - 03-21-2022
(03-21-2022, 01:54 AM)Saronsen Wrote: DTR doesn't exist to play with others, just themselves. 45 days of activity and almost all of it is missions/pve zones/afk group jerk-off sessionThey happen to die a lot and Give blues as well, taking away the player list game especially K'Hara likes to play.
It'd be best for you to just let them do their thing, since clearly they don't want to interact with you besides dog piles.
What people said here is true for sure - DTR just use what they have when they face you usually. But guess what - I will take that over posturing with waiting list and sitting put shenanigans any day. They log into the game and play it - if other factions did the same the server would be way more alive. I can guarantee you they have given out more blues than any faction since their inception.
When they farm pve zone they fight back - this is what you can expect
When they trade they interact and roleplay back
When they sit in Xi they will fight you, the reason why they drop lines is because their members die, a lot, give out blues and were criticised for not writing lines before so they do it preventively.
It's over, DTR is the way to go now, a way that gives easy effortless activity to themselves and people in their regions by logging and playing the game - I'd give anything to have them in more in places I'm trying to keep alive, they are what will keep the server afloat.
RE: Deterrence OF application - Darius - 03-21-2022
Do you represent the faction or just pollute the forum with the usual nonsense?
RE: Deterrence OF application - MechaCheff - 03-21-2022
Let me tell you the other side of the story:
We were preparing for a raid in Omicron Major. It was public info, discussed on public channels on our Discord. We expected action when we get there, but for some reason the raidmaster decided we should gather at Delta. An obvious bad idea, hopefully he learned from this mistake. We were absolutely NOT preparing for snub combat, but rather for killing NPC Nomad caps and facing Nomad players once in Major, which we didn't because all the players decided to waste their PvP lives before we hit Major. When our caps, which definitely weren't equipped for fighting snubs on the DTR- tagged part, tried to flea - they got CD'd.
You guys obviously brought that onto yourselves, choosing to engage a fleet of caps followed by snubs, and harassing the caps that tried to move on and jump. We could have a fair fight, we tried to bring you one and remove the caps from the equation, leaving only the snubs, but everyone on the enemy side actively kept the caps in the battlefield. What are they supposed to do? Observe silently? Ain't nobody got time for that...
You could've chosen to relog caps, we would've let you. But you stayed in the fight as snubs and suffered the obvious consequences. Kudos.
Why is it so hard to have a fair fight in this game? It's this kind of attitude, rushing into the line of fire in complete disregard of the situation, with zero coordination, that makes you salty. You see a fleet gathering, call your friends to gather a counter fleet. Don't start pewing mindlessly expecting to be satisfied with the result.
And regarding the docking module: we were told that this was the intended use for such equipment. If it's not, the PvP Death on Dock rule should apply, but it doesn't and it seems intentional.
I really hope you bring a more substantial fleet to fight our fleet next time, and please, ask before attacking what's our plan. We always have one and you can play along and take part. Just ask...
RE: Deterrence OF application - 27. Angriffsstaffel - 03-21-2022
DTR, ignore this critics. All those who are trying to say something bad about ganking are people who haven't had much experience in Fleet Command themselves and are trying to ruin the performance of others. It's trivial jealousy that's not worth your attention.
I can explain why all the criticism here is nothing more than empty words. But it's like talking to a wall. If anyone is offended by my words, you can reread your own posts, where you simply limit the freedom of choice of an entire faction that exists as it sees fit. You are not administrators or Gods to decide for them what they can and cannot do.
DTR, keep doing what you are doing. We know in advance what we're going for when we visit Munich or Omicron Xi on our RM bombers and, believe me, we've never been disappointed by your play yet. Even though you're not the most experienced players - it's never too late to learn something. But other than that - you're really great guys and we'll look forward to more battles with you!
Speaking of battles. I suggest we take our minds off all this idle forum chatter and have a shootout in Munich or Omicron Xi (wherever you see fit) around 16-18 UTC. If you can't show up, there's nothing wrong with that. I, on the other hand, will try to call all those I can.
RE: Deterrence OF application - Czechmate - 03-21-2022
(03-21-2022, 06:55 AM)DariusCiprian Wrote: Do you represent the faction or just pollute the forum with the usual nonsense?Thank you very much for asking, I appreciate you coming forward. I am responding as a person that represents groups that face DTR very often - and since this is an OF application thread with an open vote I am giving an alternate view to those that have faced them once or twice and draw long reaching conclusions, as it is in my interest that DTR remains active.
As the poster above me has propagated, the faction is a big blessing to Rheinland, playing lawfuls is effortless there. They also trade and interact with Gallia, are very inclusive with their "enemies" when cooperating activity etc. Me and the poster above are obviously interested in making sure DTR are rewarded for their amazing amounts of work, for their revolutionary approach towards Discovery. I represent not the faction but their frequent foes and I wish they will be encouraged into making the game better as they have been doing. There has not been a faction more deserving of officialdom when you consider the positve impact on the server in a long time. This is why I post, glad you gave me the opportunity to clarify friend.
RE: Deterrence OF application - Major. - 03-21-2022
(03-21-2022, 12:47 AM)Wesker Wrote: Ignore this feedback just keep playing the game.
+1
Don't worry DTR, most of this people here complaining about ganks, are the ones who are ganking 24/7 xD
Just continue your way, if your ganks were harming the gameplay that much, people wouldn't log against you. And the people not logging against you, are the ones crying in your feedback thread.
Have a nice day
RE: Deterrence OF application - Arcana - 03-21-2022
+1 to Relationship, suddenly all the gankers including Khara which gank every time they have opportunity started to care how they were ganked or whatever by corsairs.
RE: Deterrence OF application - Kanki - 03-21-2022
(03-21-2022, 12:15 AM)Krumai Wrote: Alright, feedback time from the K'Hara| side:
I personally witnessed this battle while cloaked. What I saw was horrible: You basically didn't give your opponent a fair fight. Two times, I repeat, two times. One in Delta and one in Xi, all on the same day. It was painful and cringey to see a whole fleet of caps chasing after a group of snubs.
Honestly I would say, even though you do a good job with forum RP, you just need to learn how fair fights are played. You don't shove caps in a pure snub brawl and expect an easy victory. In reality, this will only force the snubs to complain about your actions. I myself didn't bother to fight because I knew a whole fleet of cruisers would come for me.
And also there were several indies who probably were new. I'd honestly expect you to tell them to stay away if they are not flying a snub. Instead you just acted jokingly which of course doesn't help in a fight.
- From one of the K'Hara| Advisors
i Was In That Groupe Trying to see What They Will do .... The only THing THey have are Numbers and -10 in skill
In delta +10 vs 2 And u Puted Down like 2 of them ..... in XI like 20 vs 5 and still nothing ..... The first and the last time playing With them ....... bunch of toxic players