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Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - kikatsu - 07-02-2013
I was thinking, what if the Hessians ultimately decided to leave Rheinland (mostly) and try to find it on their own in the Omegas?
Basically what I was thinking was if the Hessians moved more into the Omegas and maybe the Omicrons slightly, the tons of other unlawful groups in Rheinland which are completely overshadowed by the Hessians. They might continue to have some stakes in Rheinland, but ultimately groups like the Bundies, Unioners, and the LWB would have the biggest slice of Rheinland unlawful control/activity.
It is an idea, might not work but eh, I will throw it out here.
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - Zen_Mechanics - 07-02-2013
Good point, other small "unheard" of factions can get a little boost there, but wouldn't you agree it can be acomplished without moving the hessians? Im good with it in anycase, but they'll have more time to deal with the sairs in omicrons and omegas
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - SummerMcLovin - 07-02-2013
EDIT
To bring this a little more on-topic:
The Hessians, along with the SCRA, LWB and Bundschuh, are all looking to have the people rise against the government. They wouldn't leave Rheinland alone until that happens, I'd guess.
Whenever people ask "what would happen if the Volksrevolution took place?" the way I think of it is as follows...
The Bundschuh, as the politicals, would become a legitimate party and be voted in to government. Since by the time the revolution was over, they'd have the support needed to win said elections, and most of the people would get on well enough in the new Rheinland.
Depending on how diplomacy goes regarding that, the rebuilding might be with Liberty, IMG and GMG support, so the economy doesn't go right down the toilet (there is still the danger of this happening as it did last time).
The Unioners in their current state would be unwelcome as pirates, but have even less qualms about working with the Corsairs so might increase in size.
The LWB would be looking to take Stuttgart back, although it will never be the same given the terraforming that has been going on.
What I've been thinking is that the Hessians would form an allied state of their own in the Omegas, perhaps taking over more of the mining alongside the IMG, and again forming a wall against the Corsairs. With Rheinland support, they might be able to work even better against them. Perhaps they would form the new RM instead.
Some part at least of the RM, loyal to the Kanzler, would probably swap places with the Bundschuh in some aspects - an outlawed group using RM ships to try and instate their own form of government.
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - kikatsu - 07-02-2013
I am not talking about a revolution, I am talking about Hessians no longer operating in Rheinland and leaving the unlawful stuff to the other groups that are already there but not really on the radar.
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - Maximk - 07-02-2013
I love summers idea. It is totally what I imagine to happen if the revolution was to be successful.
The real question is though. Could the disco mod ever go such a step. Would it ever be possible to allow the ridicolous step of actually having a revolutionary party overthrow one of the houses and take control of it.
Yes, there is a lot of lore to be made here, a lot of awesome ridicolously brilliant gameplay. I might be giggling maniacally just thinking about it.
But the real question is, would the dev team ever go such an extreme step. And well, if so, let's do it in Rheinland as we have a nice house with an actual political party-unlawful hybrid.
Then again, just thoughts.
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - Maximk - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 06:29 PM)kikatsu Wrote: I am not talking about a revolution, I am talking about Hessians no longer operating in Rheinland and leaving the unlawful stuff to the other groups that are already there but not really on the radar.
Hahaha. I know what you mean. But summer just took this to a whole new level.
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - SummerMcLovin - 07-02-2013
Edited in my explanation.
(07-02-2013, 06:32 PM)Maximk Wrote: The real question is though. Could the disco mod ever go such a step. Would it ever be possible to allow the ridicolous step of actually having a revolutionary party overthrow one of the houses and take control of it.My answer would be no. Wars and far-reaching goals keep activity high and factions interesting, so if they 'win' (like the GC to some extent), things can get stale fast. In that particular example, they have re-radicalised.
One thing I forgot to consider is that Dresden is being abandoned by Rheinland as the Hessians put more pressure on it - they then take the system for themselves. Maybe if we made it to 4.91 or something (and I don't expect that to happen), the Volksrevolution would start. However, like the last Popular Revolt, this will take many years and we definitely wouldn't have a situation where it ends.
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - Rodnas - 07-02-2013
The question is - what do you tell all the guys that signed up with the hessians to defend/liberate/help rheinland?
"Sorry Fritz, but we don't care about your kids growing up in a shitty house anymore or you being exploited by your former bosses- just leave your country, roots and family behind and go on a crusade in the Omegas with us, where there is no planet to live on and nothing but people out to get you dead?"
Sounds very attractive....while Hessian rp drifted far far away from haveing anything to do with rheinland, such a drastic change would require a complete reboot - and i don't see that happening
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - Highland Laddie - 07-02-2013
Quote:I am not talking about a revolution, I am talking about Hessians no longer operating in Rheinland and leaving the unlawful stuff to the other groups that are already there but not really on the radar.
The problem is, from an RP standpoint, WHY would the Hessians no longer want to operate in Rheinland? Their goal is not to necessarily become their own separate state-entity, but to overthrow Dauman-Kruger and the Rheinland government.
Although, I could see them trying to form closer ties with the Mollys to make a sort of Miner's Union (maybe to rival IMG) and try to take over the Omegas, Dublin, and Dresden.
RE: Hypothetical thing with the Hessians - Lythrilux - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 06:26 PM)SummerMcLovin Wrote: Some part at least of the RM, loyal to the Kanzler, would probably swap places with the Bundschuh in some aspects - an outlawed group using RM ships to try and instate their own form of government.
Interesting, we could end up with a Rhienland version of the Hellfire Legion.