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Dat FL ID - kikatsu - 10-10-2013

Everyone remember the old FL ID? Basically lets you fight if someone pays you?

The new one has:

- Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect an allied or neutral ship.

So as long as they do not shoot first, Freelancers can get in on whatever action (pewpew) they want. Any freelancer can defend any neutral ship... and just about everyone is neutral to freelancers and that is in fact RP dependent.

Nice to see the FL ID buffed, but I wonder what kinds of repercussions this will have.

Discuss.


RE: Dat FL ID - Narcotic - 10-10-2013

Hm. It'll make the Freelancer an actual Freelancer, right?

Though, comparing that freedom with the Pirate ID, we can imagine to what that leads. Abus... *cough*


RE: Dat FL ID - Madvillain - 10-10-2013

This is one of the countless ''final nails'' people scream and yell about since the dawn of humanity,
but in fact it only streamlines the process of people joining in on a fight on a random side with random intentions.

I wouldn't mind at all if it wasn't for the fact that the freelancer ID now also has acces to heavy gear that could quickly screw up the balance in a fight between groups who actually take effort to balance their numbers prior to a fight.
Previously the "uninvited guest" could be asked to bugger off by an official faction member if his participation seriously messes up the fun.

In this case it will be yet another thing for people to deal with but part from a minor rise in freelancer ID'd ships and maybe a minor drop in faction activity, I don't predict too much drama with it in the long run.
In short, my guess is that it won't make anything better but at the same time it won't make things much worse.


RE: Dat FL ID - Omicron - 10-10-2013

What would the "allied" constitute for Freelancers? Is it depending on Freelancer's personnal diplomacy as in: one has mutual friendly relations with Liberty so he could get in their pews without promise of payment?


RE: Dat FL ID - kikatsu - 10-10-2013

Omicron, there is no need for alliance. The Freelancer only has to be neutral or better to jump into a fight, and a Freelancer can naturally defend itself against any hostile ships that bother to shoot him.


RE: Dat FL ID - Duvelske - 10-10-2013

(10-10-2013, 07:17 PM)kikatsu Wrote: Everyone remember the old FL ID? Basically lets you fight if someone pays you?

The new one has:

- Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect an allied or neutral ship.

Hmm no offence.. but if i had reported all the freelancer violations when you are red to them and they just opened fire in the old version for nothing.. then i see no real change in here. Only difference is that some MIGHT actually LOOK at their ID now when its still fresh and new.


RE: Dat FL ID - Rodnas - 10-10-2013

Well, i guess the problem is to -prove- said freelancer indeed was neutral/green to the party he sided with ( and hopefully also red ...or is it only neutral ) to the party he sided against.
And knowing how people always take the easy way out i think everyone will claim he has the perfect repsheet for the given situation while in truth he only owns a repsheet for the most comfortable navigation in sirius.
In theory if you follow this line to the extreme you would have to file a report on each and every freelancer that sides against you randomly just so somebody ( aka very poor mods/admins) can/must go and check if the player was a lazy pvp abuser or within full rights to join the fray Wink


RE: Dat FL ID - Scumbag - 10-10-2013

But they still can't pirate right? So no danger to the pirate id. From this Id anyway.


RE: Dat FL ID - Kazinsal - 10-10-2013

The Pirate ID can attack "any ship in self-defense or to protect a ship of the same affiliation".

So I guess that means itself and other Pirate ID ships.


RE: Dat FL ID - Lonely Werewolf - 10-10-2013

(10-10-2013, 07:52 PM)Omicron Wrote: What would the "allied" constitute for Freelancers? Is it depending on Freelancer's personnal diplomacy as in: one has mutual friendly relations with Liberty so he could get in their pews without promise of payment?

Well...yes. Admins before have said that those who fly using generic ID's. Their diplomacy is up to them and their character. If you could get a faction to green and you RP as him being an ally, I suppose, going on past statements, that does count. But of course here neutral is enough at the moment anyways...