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New York, Bigger? - Soul Reaper - 02-14-2014
So, look at New York. It's basically the same New York as per 2(1?) years ago inRP.
I mean it was (isn't atm) the center of trade for Sirius, and the war(s) have only been going on (LI-RM/BR-KU/GA-Sirius) for what, 3 years inRP?
I don't see how New York isn't..bigger. Not physical system size though, I mean population/station density.
It has a hardware store (trenton), a giant bank and general trade hub (Newark), a military academy (WP, obviously), a military shipyard (Norfolk) and a civilian shipyard (baltimore). Oh, it also sports a police station (Bush) and a -mostly civilian- arms factory.
That does seem a lot, but if you look at it from a different perspective, it actually isn't. Basically all corporations(which are pretty damn big) in Liberty are almost completely privatized (inRP)-except maybe for Ageira- yet only two of them have their own production structures, DSE and Ageira, and Ageira's station isn't even line with their main objective.
There should be more stuff. I doubt those corporations would just make their stuff planet-side when they could have just constructed private stations.
Look at Ilde-de-France. Now that's cool, but no one ever uses that system compared to any of the other house capitals. No where near as many people.
Shouldn't New York be a bit more...dense? Multiple docking rings on Manhattan perhaps? More lane connections that support research station(s), corporate headquarters? Foreign corporate stations (bowex, kishiro, etc) even? More production facilities? Perhaps border stations as well, considering it was the center of trade a few years back, it should have those, no?
Almost forgot about Rochester and Buffalo, well, buffalo wouldn't matter from the perspective I'm looking at it. But Rochester probably would, since even inRP it's no longer just a station to smelt scrap, more like an extremely shady freeport to be honest.
RE: New York, Bigger? - Ryummel - 02-14-2014
Go sleep.
RE: New York, Bigger? - Kazinsal - 02-14-2014
No, Burak, we're not adding more docking points for people to undock from and get insta'd by Hoover.
RE: New York, Bigger? - Omicron - 02-14-2014
There is such thing as planet-side industry INRP.
RE: New York, Bigger? - Soul Reaper - 02-14-2014
(02-14-2014, 12:47 AM)Omicron Wrote: There is such thing as planet-side industry INRP.
Oh then all we need is planets ye?
Also there's the whole you know, "bringing up giant finished products from the planet into space" against "bringing up just resources" (for ore), then there's "bringing up finished products up to space from planets" against "simply undocking a ship that was manufactured in space".
Efficiency. It's called realism. It's what Roleplaying in a Hyper-reality is based on. Hello.
RE: New York, Bigger? - Savas - 02-14-2014
Makes a degree of sense and all, but realism in Disco?
Meh.
RE: New York, Bigger? - Thexare - 02-14-2014
Last I heard there were some limits to how many dockables could be in one system, and that was the reason the capital systems never got much expansion.
Might be wrong though.
RE: New York, Bigger? - Haste - 02-14-2014
No. Gallia is simply too damn crowded with stations and planets. It's not that New York is too "empty".
RE: New York, Bigger? - Soul Reaper - 02-14-2014
(02-14-2014, 01:06 AM)Thexare Wrote: Last I heard there were some limits to how many dockables could be in one system, and that was the reason the capital systems never got much expansion.
Might be wrong though.
Then how does Ile-De-France exist? Pretty sure the only reason capital systems never got more expansion was because Igiss decided to make a new house instead of expanding on already existing -and lacking- houses.
(02-14-2014, 01:08 AM)Haste Wrote: No. Gallia is simply too damn crowded with stations and planets. It's not that New York is too "empty".
Most parts of all systems aren't physically used, you can go 500k off-center without a problem.
Just make everything further from each other, that way the unlawful side also has an easier time. That'll fix the problem of adding more stations. And I'm not just comparing with IDF, NY (and all other non-gallic capital systems) should be more dense, but particularly, NY.
RE: New York, Bigger? - HuggieSunrise - 02-14-2014
i always felt the populations where a little... tiny.. i mean scale isnt 100% in freelancer. so realisim there is in what makes a good backdrop for the mechanics as far as making things bigger? .. well a few tiny stations woulda blown up in size i would think rochester some rouge bases maybe hell detroit munitions..
though the navy has thier own ship yards in thier own systems public demand might have grown too. Just as long as there isnt like a KUAT sized ring around manhatten i think were good.