+- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums)
+-- Forum: Discovery General (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Forum: Discovery RP 24/7 General Discussions (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=23)
+--- Thread: LPI and their law status (/showthread.php?tid=123925)
Pages:
1
2
LPI and their law status - Fluffyball - 12-23-2014
I'm creating that topic, because I'm interested into real status of LPI, which, by background, don't have much authority over Liberty Navy.
Quote:Liberty Police, Inc. (LPI) is a private company that handles the policing of Liberty space to interdict the importation of contraband and to prevent attacks on civilian and commercial traffic.
As far as I am concerned, private companies of such status are not even police, they are in fact underdogs for the real police. And LPI isn't even national, what makes Liberty Navy a factual police force... As far as I understand, because in Poland we have "private police force", which is City Guard and they do not have much authority as real police.
So LPI, logically, is more like a City Guard rather than actual police force, as their status is even lower than that of Bretonian or Rheinland police. Police, by default, must be part of the national system, so private police is not - technically - police at all.
What do you think about it?
RE: LPI and their law status - Liberty Police Inc. - 12-23-2014
Liberty Police Incorporated is a private corporation that contracts with the Republic of Liberty to provide internal security. We are the "national" Police force but we are also a private company
Here's a very short history of Liberty's Policing system
1 A.S. The Liberty Peacekeepers are formed to help maintain the peace and provide assistance those in need. The Liberty Peacekeepers were a combination of Police and Rescue and Assistance squads.
10 A.S. Liberty Police Department founded.
16 A.S. Liberty Police Department's space arm is founded.
653 A.S. Liberty Police Inc. takes over control of the old government-funded Liberty Police Department.
For more information you can read through our faction info.
RE: LPI and their law status - sindroms - 12-23-2014
And the actual Freelancer lore.
No, it does not make sense, but it is in fact a private company.
RE: LPI and their law status - Fluffyball - 12-23-2014
(12-23-2014, 11:14 AM)Liberty Police Inc. Wrote: Liberty Police Incorporated is a private corporation that contracts with the Republic of Liberty to provide internal security. We are the "national" Police force but we are also a private company
Here's a very short history of Liberty's Policing system
1 A.S. The Liberty Peacekeepers are formed to help maintain the peace and provide assistance those in need. The Liberty Peacekeepers were a combination of Police and Rescue and Assistance squads.
10 A.S. Liberty Police Department founded.
16 A.S. Liberty Police Department's space arm is founded.
653 A.S. Liberty Police Inc. takes over control of the old government-funded Liberty Police Department.
For more information you can read through our faction info.
Well, it looked like it lowered itself. From logical point of view, Police cannot be private as it looses its status by default. I don't get it after all.
RE: LPI and their law status - Liberty Police Inc. - 12-23-2014
Private Security is a very real part of the world we live in. Mabey not in Poland but here in the US you have many private companies who have similar authority to government Police. Many Prisons here are run by private companies because it's cheaper then the government maintaining them. Considering Liberty is Space America it's entirely logical that in the future some government functions will be provided by private firms
RE: LPI and their law status - Fluffyball - 12-23-2014
(12-23-2014, 11:32 AM)Liberty Police Inc. Wrote: Private Security is a very real part of the world we live in. Mabey not in Poland but here in the US you have many private companies who have similar authority to government Police. Many Prisons here are run by private companies because it's cheaper then the government maintaining them. Considering Liberty is Space America it's entirely logical that in the future some government functions will be provided by private firms
Oh yes, forgot about that (still, very unthinkable to us Europeans, due to the potential corruption on the way larger scale than now). Someone pointed out... even in game (HAWX, was it?) that Private Military Companies are the future of warfare, as some nations are not having (forced) draft into army (like in Poland). Switzerland is, on the other hand, contrary to this trend.
On the other hand, privatization could be good, if we talk about worker law (in Polish Police you cannot report lobbying, as it is not possible as, in law, lobbying in Police does not exist and cannot be reported - and if you tried to do so, you are fired.)
RE: LPI and their law status - Derkylos - 12-23-2014
Just because a privately-owned police force is not a good thing does not mean it can't be a thing... ^.^
Liberty can quite easily say "The Government of Liberty hereby grants this private group the power to enforce laws, make arrests, execute warrants, etc, etc" and it's not like anyone can be all "hey, no fair"...'coz the police just go "you're breaking the law. Arrest him!"
As for their authority over the military, that would be something for the state to decide.
Most police forces in the modern world have authority over their respective militaries (and often over foreign militaries on their soil), unless martial law is invoked. But that's mainly due to the fear that an ungoverned military can run a country by force. Whether Liberty shares these concerns is their business...
RE: LPI and their law status - nOmnomnOm - 12-23-2014
Its a private company. Private companies are not lead by the government. They are separate and use it to make money.
For example there are private prison companies in the world that make use of the labor force available in their prisons. As an example. They are corrupt most of the time.
RE: LPI and their law status - Highland Laddie - 12-23-2014
Just because a private company is working for a government doesn't automatically mean it is corrupt; at least certainly not any more corrupt than a government bureaucracy could be.
Corruption is based upon individuals, their motives, morals, etc. It's not based upon the structure of their business or their government.
RE: LPI and their law status - Thyrzul - 12-23-2014
(12-23-2014, 03:37 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: Just because a private company is working for a government doesn't automatically mean it is corrupt; at least certainly not any more corrupt than a government bureaucracy could be.
Corruption is based upon individuals, their motives, morals, etc. It's not based upon the structure of their business or their government.
Isn't entirely correct. It indeed does depend on the structure of the system and the allowances granted by said structure. You can be a greedy motherfecher all the way you want, you won't enjoy the perks of corruption if the system is designed in a way not to let it happen.
That said, in a system which grants more opportunities for corruption to develop and flourish, corruption will have magnitudes of more chance to develop and flourish, because the structure of the system will not be a prohibitive factor, and the whole would depend only on human nature. And we all know what it is like.
That said, in a system which grants more opportunities for corruption to develop and flourish, corruption will have magnitudes of more chance to develop and flourish, because the structure of the system will not be a prohibitive factor, and the whole would depend only on human nature. And we all know what it is like.