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Non-Sirians? Second Coalition? Possible? - Fluffyball - 01-19-2015
[[Please note this is not faction proposal, only giving questions about, if non-Sirian - but human - faction will not be frowned upon.]]
As far as I remember, Colonial Republic is one of very few factions that are of rather original non-Sirian origin. Regarding the post here, it is possible to establish the player faction, which has non-Sirian origin, but does not retcon the "original" Hispania-origin Coalition?
I am more asking, because it would be interesting to introduce non-Sirian Coalition into Sirius, with good background - like one of the members of Coalition (mostly China) have had their colony ship sent into bordering sector OR ship was drifting around for 800 years and was found by other faction.
The first idea would rather revolve around the small Migrant Fleet, being sent, let's say, 200 years ago, after signals from the Sirius have been discovered - somekind of well-armed expedition sent from pure curiosity.
Or, they found, and used, one of the ancient Daam K'vosh hyper gates (remember that map from the Artifact have been showing the rather vast piece of space) which was destroyed after they entered it, with no way back into original sector.
Or, what was finally decided about Sol: is the destruction canon or not?
RE: Second Coalition - possible? - Gypsie Skripto - 01-19-2015
I belive that the "Asian" fragment of the Coalition is already comprehended in the existent Coalition lore. Take a look at some of the names they picked for instance.
RE: Second Coalition - possible? - Mímir - 01-19-2015
I'm not a huge fan of grand ideas. The smaller and more simple an idea is, the better.
If you want to personally roleplay a Chinese Coalition guy of Sol origin that somehow made it to the Sirius sector, then by all means do that - without taking existing lore hostage or adding your personal stuff to the universal lore we all relate to.
My 2 cents.
There are plenty of Chinese folks in the current Coalition. Planets have Chinese names and so on.
RE: Second Coalition - possible? - Fluffyball - 01-19-2015
Topic has been reworked, now it is place to debate if it is OK to introduce non-Sirian factions.
Of all scenarios I have posted there, the Hyper Gate idea isn't that silly provided that not only Sirius Sector has been influenced by Daam K'vosh, so it would give some possibilities.
Of course this idea doesn't need Coalition ID, as Freelancer ID would fit perfectly here as well, if non-Sirians were not connected to the Coalition and their ideas anymore.
RE: Second Coalition? Non-Sirians? Possible? - Alestone - 01-19-2015
Personally, I thought the idea of the Alliance sending all the ships to the same "Sector" was kind of silly from a survival perspective, but I understand that they wanted a relatively tight conflict zone for the SP campaign.
It would actually make a lot of sense for expeditions to have gone in different directions, especially when, as is obviously the case in the FL universe, they had no master plan for assisting each other in getting established.
As to incorporating it into Disco, the one way gate/uncontrolled jump is a tired cliché but about the only thing that really let's you play in the sandbox unless the devs/admins add heretofore unknown systems and routes.
RE: Second Coalition? Non-Sirians? Possible? - Vulkhard Muller - 01-19-2015
Don't get me wrong please, I love the idea of my popular revolutions in Sirius and I also cannot believe Im about to say something that pissed me off a long while ago:
Instead of making a new faction, join the official and make your own RP fit. the SCRA does have strict role play yes. but I personally am of the opinion that if you can make your character work in our RP guidelines then by all means I will not try to stop you.
On the same note, if you could some how build the Rp up with a few buddies and you all apply to the SCRA at the same time with the same general story of "We are a remnant of Test sleeper ship # and we followed the fading human signals all this way from X location on the outskirts of Sirius." That could be really cool, and I would enjoy every moment of it.
*let it be known I am in no way shape or form assuring you entrance into the SCRA through my personal opinions
RE: Second Coalition? Non-Sirians? Possible? - Thunderer - 01-19-2015
I think that it would be even more fun if we had socialist Nomads.
Oh wait. We already have them, don't we?
RE: Second Coalition? Non-Sirians? Possible? - Wesker - 01-19-2015
I was gonna make a thread about something similar... I think that idea is awesome of a non-Sirius coalition coming. I personally would like to see the current coalition expand.
RE: Second Coalition? Non-Sirians? Possible? - SnakeLancerHaven - 01-19-2015
I onca actually had the idea of this "non-sirian coalition", but it had more a connection to Gallia instead...
The Idea was that Gallia wasn't able to finish the Sleeper Ship when a fleet of the Coalition found them and instead of destroying the Ship, they made a Pact.
The Coalition would've sent an army with the Gallic Sleeper Ship in order to find the remnant Alliance and once they found them, call in the Coalition from Sol and crush them. However it didn't go as planned and they landed in Gallia without beeing able to find the Colonies for a long time. Until they advanced (given to the current tech of Gallia, it would make sense to assume that the Coalition helped them to build such strong warships). Of course until then this has all been kept secret by the King and it's loyal members.
They came to an idea, instead of direct War, they would manipulate the people in Sirius with Propaganda and make them Rebel against their Governments, by telling that Gallia was left behind and is now seeking Revenge because the Alliance are the "bad" guys, n stuff.
So they'd have covered their faces perfectly under the Gallic Flag. Since then, Gallia and the Coalition Agents would be trying to reach Sol, to contact the Fleet...
But of course they don't know that Sol was crushed by a Nomad Suncrusher.
RE: Second Coalition? Non-Sirians? Possible? - Fluffyball - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 05:25 PM)Vulkhard Muller Wrote: Don't get me wrong please, I love the idea of my popular revolutions in Sirius and I also cannot believe Im about to say something that pissed me off a long while ago:
Instead of making a new faction, join the official and make your own RP fit. the SCRA does have strict role play yes. but I personally am of the opinion that if you can make your character work in our RP guidelines then by all means I will not try to stop you.
On the same note, if you could some how build the Rp up with a few buddies and you all apply to the SCRA at the same time with the same general story of "We are a remnant of Test sleeper ship # and we followed the fading human signals all this way from X location on the outskirts of Sirius." That could be really cool, and I would enjoy every moment of it.
*let it be known I am in no way shape or form assuring you entrance into the SCRA through my personal opinions
As a reply, as I stated in a very first line of OP:
Quote:[[Please note this is not faction proposal, only giving questions about, if non-Sirian - but human - faction will not be frowned upon.]]
It was a question, not actual faction proposal. Whole topic rather should serve as a brainstorm over the question (concerning Gallics and Colonials as only non-Sirian factions) "is it good to create non-Sirian faction?"
As for me, I'm not ready to create a faction and I'm already in one (semi-active) faction. There are factions I'd love to join, but they are unactive or forgotten/left so hard, and I don't have nerve to even start to work over new faction - I can be in e.g. Exiles faction, but someone else lead it - I can give out ideas only. Unless I will have a very good idea, I won't be even trying reviving existing factions, and joining upon big factions is useless, since there is no need for any new input (reason why I left official IMG).
Quote:But of course they don't know that Sol was crushed by a Nomad Suncrusher.That's why I asked if Extended Intro is canon to Discovery lore - or not.