To: BES-, cc: Bowex - Printable Version

As I don't know who you are on the Forums, it is a bit difficult to talk to you. I will try and answer some of the things covered ooRP during our 'conversation'

[20.03.2015 22:16:48] BES-Irremediable: //Dude, this is not smuggling this is legit inRP
[20.03.2015 22:17:03] BES-Irremediable: //Bowex does this all the time.
[20.03.2015 22:17:17] BES-Irremediable: //Literally, this is our job.
[20.03.2015 22:17:47] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //And if I catch them I will also do the same. It is the Law of Bretonia
[20.03.2015 22:18:05] BES-Irremediable: //Dude no. We are at war. There is a war, we supply the front. What do you not get?
1) I have asked the previous Leader of BPA (who keeps a fatherly eye on me/BPA) who ran it for about 4 years, a HC of Bowex and other more veteran Community Members than I and none of them seem to have come across this 'Charter'. Nor do they agree that this is legitimate RP for Bowex.

[20.03.2015 22:21:24] BES-Irremediable: //Like the NPCs are literally hard coded to follow the laws. They tell us we're clear.
2) The NPCs, from what I can tell, aren't 'hard-coded' for House Laws. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.

[20.03.2015 22:22:01] BES-Irremediable: //Alright, how long have you been with Discovery?
3) Does it matter? But to answer the question just over 3.5 years.

[20.03.2015 22:26:16] BES-Irremediable: //Dude I have been a member of the BAF, QCP and way too many factions to mention. I know the law, I also know the story.
4) If you know the Law then we wouldn't have had the long conversation. You will find the link to the Laws in the main Post. I will also refer you to answer 1.

[20.03.2015 22:29:47] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //And please don't come trough Bretonia with Gaian Wildlife when I am on duty. *smiles*
[20.03.2015 22:29:56] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //through*
[20.03.2015 22:30:08] BES-Irremediable: //Dude, that is different. This is for the war.
[20.03.2015 22:30:20] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //And it is still illegal
5) I will refer this one to an answer 7 below also to 4 above

[20.03.2015 22:31:05] BES-Irremediable: //What you're doing is like an officer stopping a train of ammunition for the trenches in WW1
[20.03.2015 22:31:30] BES-Irremediable: //This is what we do, this is what we have always done. What do you not get? We're literally sanctioned by the crown to
[20.03.2015 22:31:33] BES-Irremediable: //do this.
[20.03.2015 22:34:51] BES-Irremediable: //Then I'm really surprised you aren't aware of the RP and the story of Bowex literally always doing this.
[20.03.2015 22:32:47] BES-Irremediable: //Oh christ, you really can't get it into your head, can you? I give up.
6) Yet again I refer you to answer 1.

[20.03.2015 22:32:53] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //I am also the Leader of the BPA, just for your information
[20.03.2015 22:35:05] BES-Irremediable: //It'd be like stopping the QCP for piracy, like what the hell.
[20.03.2015 22:35:20] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //And if I catch Bowex doing it, I will also throw the book at them
[20.03.2015 22:35:58] BES-Irremediable: //If this is the RP capability of someone who leads the BPA then the house is in deep trouble. Righto, I'm off to make tea.
7) Now comes the crunch time. That character is played as a Constable. His RP is that there is the Law and only the Law. He plays by the Book and even when faced (and he gets it a lot) by obtuse Traders/Smugglers he tries very hard to keep his cool and politeness. (I sometimes, depending on the Player do give some ooRP leeway especially to what appear to be new players). I am also willing, as I tried with you, to give ways out of a situation without the need to shoot. I am no PvPer and well know my limitations in that department. The problem, seem to come when 1 stubborn character meets another stubborn character. The advantage that mine had was he had the Law on his side. Maybe your idea of RP and mine differ greatly but it is, in my opinion, RP and I enjoy it. As for your RP, do you think it is good RP for Bowex to be smuggling Gaian Wildlife?

[20.03.2015 22:56:07] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //Why did you have to push it?
[20.03.2015 22:56:33] BES-Irremediable: //DUDE WHAT.
[20.03.2015 22:56:39] BES-Irremediable: //I explained everything to you.
[20.03.2015 22:56:51] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //I gave you plenty of outs
[20.03.2015 22:56:52] BES-Irremediable: //You didn't listen. Then instead of trying anything else, you field a bomber against me.
[20.03.2015 22:57:02] BES-Irremediable: // A BOMBER. Against Bowex.
[20.03.2015 22:57:24] BES-Irremediable: //The company that has been supplying the crown since it colonized this part of Sirius.
[20.03.2015 22:57:39] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //I even went down the avenue of arresting you and have you follow me to Poole for an inRP impounding of your ship
[20.03.2015 22:57:49] BES-Irremediable: //The company that's been conducting raids and stealing H-Fuel from Kusari during the last war.
8) This was me trying to talk to you after we destroyed your ship. I enjoyed the RP we were doing but you really forced the issue over a 2 million credit fine or me impounding your ship for an ooRP 24 hours. I would have still insisted that your Cargo was destroyed. I didn't call for a Bomber, Smith decided to change his ship.

[20.03.2015 22:58:00] BES-Irremediable: //That was powergamey as hell, mate.
9) Sorry if you feel this way. I would seriously like to know how you think I was powergaming? I don't know what else to say.

[20.03.2015 22:58:25] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //Read the Laws of Bretonia. I can't make it much plainer than that.
[20.03.2015 22:58:45] BES-Irremediable: //You know the BPA and the story of all of Bretonia goes a bit deeper than the laws.
[20.03.2015 22:58:56] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //Even Bretonian Corporations have to follow the Law
[20.03.2015 22:59:19] BES-Irremediable: //Oh my god are you literally... you know what mate. Forget it.
[20.03.2015 22:59:59] BES-Irremediable: //I'm going to make myself a nice cup of tea, I've been really sick these past couple of days and I don't really want to -
[20.03.2015 23:00:09] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //Take it up with the Government then. Maybe you will believe me then
[20.03.2015 23:00:11] BES-Irremediable: //Have to explain RP to someone. Read the forums sometimes.
[20.03.2015 23:00:36] BPA)Waldorf.Salad: //I read the Forums quite regularly
10) I think basically see answer 7. It is my RP for that character. Also see answer 1.

If you would like to talk more, pm me on this Account or the one that sent in Waldorf Salad's Report.

Anyway I have no hard feelings about it. I enjoyed the RP but I feel that it wasn't good for you.

From: Maxamillion Wolf, Manager, Trade Combine
To: Bretonian Police Authority
CC: BES- Contractors
Priority: High
Topic: Breaches in Bretonian Law

Good evening to the Officers of the Bretonian Police.

I am saddened this had to escalate further. When I received the call from the Police Station near my office, I feared what may have happened. Once the situation was explained to me, I quickly opened a communication channel to the captains in question to demand an explanation.

I would like to assure you in the fact that Borderworld Exports, as a whole, is not involved in the transporting of Black Market sourced goods, and we operate a strict policy, within the company guidelines, that speaks against such actions. As an extension, I can also assure you that no "charter" of this type exists. Borderworld Exports has no right to carry "Black Market" sourced munitions. We agree that, through the advice given by the Police Authority and Armed Forces, that these weapons are highly dangerous, and would put our employees and our soldiers at more risk, rather than aid them in their work, that work being to supply and defend Bretonia.

I would like to close by explaining that the Captains in question have already received the mandatory company warning from myself. I explained that if this goes any further, they would face expulsion from the company. We here at Bowex are more than happy to leave this in the capable hands of the BPA, and our legal team will not be getting involved. Thank you, to all the gentlemen involved, for taking the time to listen to this message from Borderworld Exports management.

Yours in Service to the Realm,

Maxamillion Wolf
Manager, Trade Combine
Borderworlds Exports