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Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - nOmnomnOm - 01-09-2016
Swearing.
We have all done it. We all have been told not to do it?
First of all: Why?
Why is swearing so bad? Why are words given more attention than others? Why does it even exist if you can just write around it and still make an even more worse insult?
Have you had a chance to read Shakespeare? Just go to this here: http://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/resources/shakespeare-insults/
Swear words are just labels for certain things. Some of those things are not even offensive in itself.
A female dog for instance. Poop. The act in which reproduction is done.
All these things are not insulting in itself. If you however taking a word to label it and then fling it at something or someone, it is then a 'swear'.
Right so let's keep that in mind then for a second.
When we learn about manners we learn also about not to swear. We learn to be civil. We learn to not put our elbows on the table and put our pinkies up when we drink tea.
Lots of the stuff is really just to look good and behave. It is to not get others "insulted".
So it makes sense then that we as a society cannot swear to others because that would somehow be "insulting". Somehow in our minds these words hurt, even though their literally meanings are not insulting... other than poop. (but we can use Crap freely! YAY!) .
So.. all in all ... these are my thoughts on swearing as a topic and why we dont swear here towards others.
Now dear reader, lets talk about swearing at -things- and things that -happen- .
If you trip and fall, it hurts. You will probably swear becasue of it.
If you get attacked by someone in run, you panic. you will probably swear.
If your computer dies, you will feel hate towards it. You will probably swear. I know i have when a deadline is due in 1 hour and my project is frozen!
So what is the issue with this again? Again, it may make people feel "insulted" that you are using that "language" to represent your hate/rage/hurt through one word that has been given to you by society and taught that this is a bad word to say. So you say it. bleep the police! (oh look at me i am circumventing the swear filter! BAD!)
Alright lets bring this now to ROLE PLAY.
Do you honestly thing pirates/gang-leaders/terrorists have manors?
Do you thing they care if you get insulted?
Do you think they will swear when something horrid happens to them?
No, no, and yes. Hell, even in the military when you get shot up you will swear! (oh no I used "H. E. Double hockey stick!!)
So what is wrong then with swearing in role play? What is wrong with using that?
I have seen even in literature and my own proffs when explaining things in quote freely swear. It can even be 'poetic' in some cases.
You know what it is though? Probably we as a community will just 'abuse' it. God, I hate that crap! (oh look at me! using swears that i can use on this forum!)
It would be perfectly inRP to swear, though it looks like we cannot?
So what can we say then?
%$#@ ?
Frak?
boitch?
>.>
The immersion just isnt the same if I am under heavy assult and on TS im saying swears while on RP im saying "Oh no! I am being attacked on my six! I am so scared!"
Yeah I wouldn't say that especially as a character that doesn't follow manners.
So what I think it all comes down to is this:
-5 year olds that can play here and still swear in CoD cannot read it here.
-keeping things "civil"
-We cannot as a community keep things "civil" if we are allowed to swear inRP
Which really... I dont understand.
Edit: here is something we should think about:
![[Image: Justin-Trudeau-Because-Its-2015.jpg]](http://lybio.net/wp-content/uploads/Justin-Trudeau-Because-Its-2015.jpg)
2016. time for change! (lol)
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - Corile - 01-09-2016
Because the reason some words are considered swear words is a result of a sort of agreement. Another term of that agreement is not to use those words in public spaces. This is a public space.
Also because google lists websites that have a lot of swearwords much lower (confirmed information).
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - Karst - 01-09-2016
Millionth time this has been discussed.
For unknown reasons, it has been decided that this community needs to be rated "E" (if you ignore the violence, drug use, slavery etc.), so a kindergarden-level zero tolerance policy even for mild swearing is used.
I disagree with this, I feel this is belittling and mocking of a community composed of teens and adults, and it makes me take the rules and staff less seriously.
I'm pretty certain the majority of the community agrees, but that's been the case for years and nothing has ever changed.
So, good luck I guess.
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - Doria - 01-09-2016
I guess %$#@ would be better, yes...
The thing is, most of the time is difficult to know if people are RPing or right straight insulting you. And they can always claim "it was all inRP" when we know some times (if not most) they are not.
Also, in one of the recent sanctions that spiked this discussion, a derrogatory term for people with mental disability was used. Even if on a slang form. When you say that to a player because of an action he took as a player, even if inRP, how can he not be offended?
It's very different than, for a very obvious and clear example, call a corsair a "canibal".
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - Redon - 01-09-2016
(01-09-2016, 07:04 PM)Doria Wrote: Also, in one of the recent sanctions that spiked this discussion, a derrogatory term for people with mental disability was used. Even if on a slang form. When you say that to a player because of an action he took as a player, even if inRP, how can he not be offended?
By not taking offense.
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - nOmnomnOm - 01-09-2016
if a male pirate talks to a female pirate can he use "come over here you little (female dog) "
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - nOmnomnOm - 01-09-2016
(01-09-2016, 07:02 PM)Protégé Wrote: Because the reason some words are considered swear words is a result of a sort of agreement. Another term of that agreement is not to use those words in public spaces. This is a public space.
Also because google lists websites that have a lot of swearwords much lower (confirmed information).
i can use "crap" but not the "s" version?
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - Thyrzul - 01-09-2016
@Karst
Of course the community of a space sim rated PG-13 has to be rated E, because why not?
@Doria
About said derogatory term, perhaps it's just me, but I have met the word relatively recently and had never really seen it mentioned in a context to suggest one's mental disability, often experienced it's usage in relation to one's stupidity/silly decision, or just usual mockery between people of maturity level of teenagers. I've also recently found out that said four letter word is short for an other six letter variant of it, which reminds me more of a national from a certain middle-Asian country (mainly because it's spelled literally the same in my own language and doesn't differ from the English version that much either) than somebody with an extra chromosome. I've never associated these terms with people suffering trisomy-21, nor do I think anybody should. Or take any insult seriously at all. We are on the internet after all.
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - The Savage - 01-09-2016
I think both sides are right in this exact subject. On one hand, we have universe full of bad things. On the other hand, there is a very thin line between RP and ooRP - at least for some people.
Look at Battlestar Galactica remake. They replaced all "F" words with "frak", "frakker" or "frakking frak", etc. In CSI (TV series) despite it being quite graphic, barely we encounter any french in it.
RE: Swearing | Questions/Thoughs about it and RP - Lythrilux - 01-09-2016
I can understand wanting to prevent swearing. It makes sense inRP, and I wouldn't mind people swearing inRP but it can be unpleasant if overdone.
However, my main gripe is that rule 1.1 is often used as a means for people to lash out at other users via the admins. No one in this community legitimately goes "Waaaaah someone called me a 'Mong' or said the f-word I feel so offended!" No, this community is toxic enough to bait people into saying something that could class as 1.1 or nitpicking and getting someone done for 1.1, just so that they can hit back at another community member
Seriously! Look at those past few sanctions! I guarantee none of the reporters were genuinely offended.