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[POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - The Savage - 02-08-2016

There has been conflict on shoutbox regarding this and the server rules. According to roleplay, BAF can invite Liberty Navy into join operation to sink down POB - especially when BAF has no enough caps to do such operation AND Liberty Navy stationing within Bretonia. Makes full sense, taking into account that Bretonia and Liberty are allies.

But then, according to server rules - Liberty Navy would be sanction for doing siege outside Liberty.


So, any Green on that?

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - Lythrilux - 02-08-2016

How would they be sanctioned? They have ZoI there.

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - The Savage - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 01:32 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: How would they be sanctioned? They have ZoI there.

According to server rules, militaries can besiege POBs in their own space only regardless of ZOI, what people points out.

Question via this thread is actually a fail-safe in order to avoid needless sanctions.

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - Laura C. - 02-08-2016

Quote:Sovereign House Space
- House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences upon any players, factions and POBs found breaking House Laws within Sovereign House Space.

All Systems
-All Factions remain bound by their respective ID restrictions and allowances. In case of a conflict, the ID overrides server rules.
- House Miltary, Police and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences only for actions occurring within their ZOI.

Technically rules doesn´t say it must be your own Sovereign House Space. And LN ID has ZOI in two houses, that´s a fact.

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - Mao - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 01:35 PM)Toris Wrote: militaries can besiege POBs in their own space only regardless of ZOI
Can you point me the exact rule that states that? I can't find it.

nvm

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - Malmsteen - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 01:38 PM)Laura C. Wrote:
Quote:Sovereign House Space
- House Military, Police, and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences upon any players, factions and POBs found breaking House Laws within Sovereign House Space.

All Systems
-All Factions remain bound by their respective ID restrictions and allowances. In case of a conflict, the ID overrides server rules.
- House Miltary, Police and Intelligence factions may enforce roleplay consequences only for actions occurring within their ZOI.

Technically rules doesn´t say it must be your own Sovereign House Space. And LN ID has ZOI in two houses, that´s a fact.

+1

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - Karst - 02-08-2016

I think either looking at the actual rules or applying common sense will indicate there should be no issue with Liberty Navy assisting Bretonia within their ZOI.

Not like they really helped anyway (sun)

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - jammi - 02-08-2016

As I pointed out in the Liberty Emergency Chat, the people who are saying the LN cannot assist have a faulty understanding of the rule and it's intention.

The rules do not state soverign space within your own house. They simply state soverign space. Most lawfuls will only have one house's soverign systems on their ID, therefore if they have multiple the ability to support local forces there - or even act autonomously - is working fully as intended.

(Hannibal) telling Liberty players they'll be sanctioned for participating is nothing more than fearmongering based on misinformation.

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - Alley - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 03:01 PM)Karst Wrote: I think either looking at the actual rules or applying common sense will indicate there should be no issue with Liberty Navy assisting Bretonia within their ZOI.

This. As long as it's from a request from the Bretonian Forces/Gov, I don't see the problem with it.
It'd be a problem if we saw LN ships take down POBs in Bretonia from their own initiative.

RE: [POB] [Server Rules] Siege Clarifications - jammi - 02-08-2016

(02-08-2016, 03:56 PM)Alley Wrote:
(02-08-2016, 03:01 PM)Karst Wrote: I think either looking at the actual rules or applying common sense will indicate there should be no issue with Liberty Navy assisting Bretonia within their ZOI.

This. As long as it's from a request from the Bretonian Forces/Gov, I don't see the problem with it.
It'd be a problem if we saw LN ships take down POBs in Bretonia from their own initiative.
Problematic from a roleplay perspective, yes, but there'd still be nothing technically wrong with it by the rules, provided they undertook the minimum amount of required RP for the seige thread.