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Order high command to the THC - Heartless - 12-09-2008
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Source: Vice Admiral Sius 'SwissScorch' Malacos, Planet Toledo, Omicron Minor SystemSearch: THC and ??? Comm Units
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THC command,
Over the past months your ships have been followed by both Order and Zoner ships and your actions have been seen. Needless to say we're not happy with what we have recorded.
First of all, there is no official record of any such "THC" faction on Sirius, I suggest you get that status approved if at all possible.
Secondly, you are in violation of 3 Zoner and Order laws, all of which demand explanation.
1) One of your ships we have followed is the "BigFatty", a Zoner Juggernaut with an Order ID and IFF. The Zoner Juggernaut is a ship intended only to be used by the Zoners and the Order has agreed not to purchase any of these as they require many resources and cost too much to build. Time and Effort better spent on other projects.
2) Attacking Liberty with Order ID'd and tagged ships. No Order ships are permitted anywhere into Liberty. This was an executive Order given a long time ago and yet you fail to do so, stay away from all house systems. The Order has a strict Zone of Operations.
3) Attacking Liberty (and anyone else) with Zoner ships. The Zoners have long been Neutral throughout Sirius and their ships are not to be used for attacking Civilians and those not hostile to the Zoners, mainly being Nomads and other attackers.
Liberty does not attack Zoners, so there is no reason to use Zoner ships and eqquipment to attack Liberty. I have spoken with high ranking Zoner officials and we agreed we must send you this message.
Please respond with an explanation and avoid these actions from here on. Laws exist for a reason, and they are for the good of all of us.
-Vice Admiral Sius Malacos
--Black Squadron and the Order
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Order high command to the THC - Malaclypse 666 - 12-10-2008
Message to: Malacos, Vice Adm., Toledo
Comm ID: F-23 Discordia, ChairEntity, Council of Zoners
Ahhh, so that's where those rusty old prototypes disappeared to! Sorry about that, Suissy... who'd have thought those junky old barns would ever be spaceworthy!
If they are not decommissioned as per your orders, feel free to grind them into little baby bits, and make.. carriers.. yeah, that's it.. carriers out of them.
Regards from all us peaceful, neutral, boring Zoners,
Mama Dis
Port Canaria
Order high command to the THC - Asgardian - 12-10-2008
**Incoming Coded Transmission**
**Decode Algorithm 4-A997-B**
**Decoding...Complete**
>>[LN]-Jack.Malrone<<
--Message Reads as Follows--
Its a good thing you're getting your Capital craft in-line, Vice Admiral, we were getting tired of destroying [THC]Big.Fatty's Juggernaught over and over again.
Lt.Commander Malrone out.
--Message End--
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Order high command to the THC - Tenacity - 12-10-2008
***incoming transmission***
Source: Commander Aki Kimura, Order Guard, Lisbon Station, Omicron 100
Subject: THC Vessels
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Quote:2) Attacking Liberty with Order ID'd and tagged ships. No Order ships are permitted anywhere into Liberty. This was an executive Order given a long time ago and yet you fail to do so, stay away from all house systems. The Order has a strict Zone of Operations.
Admiral, I would like to note here that as far as I am aware, alaska is not a part of that agreement, and our forces continue to fight liberty in a territorial dispute over the alaska system. However, our ships are not permitted any further than that into liberty space, due to the possibility of civilian casualties in engagements between liberty and order vessels. As there are no civilian vessels within alaska, it's a null issue there.
More to the point, the THC are not a part of the Order, and their use of our Identification and Transponders is not helping our cause at all. Originally, several THC ships used Corsair identification, but changed to Order ID when the juggernaut was purchased (//meaning, they couldnt use it as corsairs, and they wanted big lolcapwhore ships, so hey why not go order!//). For the most part I've ignored THC ships in our space, but if their violence in 'our name' continues it will remedied by myself and those I currently command, I assure you.
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Order high command to the THC - Heartless - 12-10-2008
**Com.ID-Vice.Admiral.Sius.Malacos**
Message Begins//
Commander Kimura,
although the world "Liberty" was used for the off-limits ZOI, I am going to make sure that Alaska does not count for that. I had Alaska in mind when that law was first passed, however there are Nomads in Alaska and we are gaining a foothold there so Alaska is now a limited ZOI. Meaning Order ships may enter however need to be careful.
As for the THC, I have spoken with Zoner officials and these ships have attacked Liberty and openly shot anything that moved to accounts I recieved. Just as the representative from the Council of Zoners has said, those ships are to be turned into... carriers. For our benefit, and I know you have taken a keen interest in the models being built in Evora.
I will make sure our pilots know about Alaska, however the THC are to be dealt with by both Order and Zoner members in the proper way. They have had warnings.
-Admiral Malacos
//Message Ends
Order high command to the THC - Bluntage - 12-12-2008
Hey,
This is BigFatty. Someone just told me about this post so I came to check it out. You guys are taking the game too personally and just making up stuff that isn't true. I'm not trying to ruin anyones fun but you've got to understand that not everyone wants to play the game the way you do. I'm an independent Order and I can do whatever I want within RP of the Order. If you Bs guys want to have peace with the LN then that's up to you but I'm not getting rid of 95% of potential hostile player interaction to make you happy.
Yes I have a Zoner Jauggernaut and yes I know you hate that. I bought it when I was a Zoner and then became Order. I honestly didn't think it was a problem since it was a ship from an allied faction and I really just play Order and Zoner only with all my characaters. But I promise that whether they make me or not that I will be switching it out next version to avoid this as an agitator.
And Bs. I'd like to point out that you have virtually 0% presence in Minor in the hours that I am playing. I don't think we have really ever talked Swiss. Maybe Bs needs to spend more time coming up with a fun and exciting RP idea. Your RP is so boring that even Bs can't bear to play it.
THC is my own personal little clan along with a friend from home. We take care of medical marijuana deliveries throughout Sirius and fight injustices in the galaxy...and by injustices I mean the LN, BH, Wilde and Nomads. You're right it's not an official clan but I wouldn't rule it out in the future. I'm a little lazy and don't really have the time to give the forums the attention they would need.
And obviously THC is a reference to marijuana. Yes I smoke it but there's no need to worry because I also have a good job and own a house and a car so I'm doing ok. If you're picturing me as some Stereotypical stoner dude then you are way off. If your thinking that I'm a bad person because I smoke weed and make jokes about it in a secret space fantasy land of people that I don't have any real world contact with then you're obviously missing some humor in life.
Let's go through some of the things people have said in this post:
Swiss says:
Attacking Liberty with Order ID'd and tagged ships. No Order ships are permitted anywhere into Liberty. This was an executive Order given a long time ago and yet you fail to do so, stay away from all house systems. The Order has a strict Zone of Operations.
Truth: Xoria already said Order independents are not obliged to this rule and are able to rp the hard-coded Order.
Swiss says:
Attacking Liberty (and anyone else) with Zoner ships. The Zoners have long been Neutral throughout Sirius and their ships are not to be used for attacking Civilians and those not hostile to the Zoners, mainly being Nomads and other attackers.
Truth: I have never engaged an LN ship with a Zoner IFF or ID on my ship. When I'm using my Zoner guys, I rp them as Zoners.
Asgardian says:
Its a good thing you're getting your Capital craft in-line, Vice Admiral, we were getting tired of destroying [THC]Big.Fatty's Juggernaught over and over again.
Truth: That is true. You have destroyed my ship several times and I hate you. I don't really hate you.
Tenacity says:
More to the point, the THC are not a part of the Order, and their use of our Identification and Transponders is not helping our cause at all. Originally, several THC ships used Corsair identification, but changed to Order ID when the juggernaut was purchased (//meaning, they couldnt use it as corsairs, and they wanted big lolcapwhore ships, so hey why not go order!//). For the most part I've ignored THC ships in our space, but if their violence in 'our name' continues it will remedied by myself and those I currently command, I assure you.
Truth: This is the comment that bothered me the most. I'm not impressed with you at all Tenacity. First off helping the cause...sorry that I'm not helping your cause of sitting in O100 with Aki doing nothing in the little time you rp the Order. I'll also have you know that none of my ships have ever had a Corsair ID. I don't like to rp pirates at all so I would never be one.
You guys think I'm some jerk that just shoots everything I see. In case you haven't noticed, I am not in the habit of blowing up enemy ships that don't have a chance to get me although I can surely say that same courteousy is not always extended back to me. And the capwhore thing is ridiculous. The LN usually has a massive fleet of ships more then capable of defeating a BS or even 2 BS and an escort most of the time. I exclusively used fighter style ships initially but was wiped out against repeated overwhelming forces. If we come to Liberty and we can't make a good fight happen then we leave after some rp chat. The LN needs some opposition in NY sometimes to keep their corruption in check. Let's all chill out and enjoy the game. If I am doing something specific that is causing you personal trauma in your life then please let me know.
Bluntage
Order high command to the THC - Heartless - 12-12-2008
//umm... ok.
I'm just going to say that...
I'm not taking this personal, everything was in RP and I don't appreciate you insulting my rp when you have probably never met. I go to school I'm busy with college applications, and what if you live on the other side fo the world?
I think you're making it personal cause I didn't need to know that you smoke.
Big thing is, this is an RP server. Role play, not do whatever you want within your id's guidelines. Disco is a community and not a "I'm alone I do whatever I want" place. People come together and roleplay, we've made governments, rules and you are just breaking those role play conventions without any care at all.
And don't say anything against Bs|. I always tell them to put real life before virtual life. School and work comes first. And I haven't seen you on when I was on either alot but one of my boys did catch you doing what you were doing so we are watching.
Lastly, this was an RP post, so please respond with something in RP which you seem to fail to understand. As you only ahve 17 posts I don't think you're on the forums often which is where most of the rp takes place.
Order high command to the THC - stewcool - 12-12-2008
//Sorry but I have to butt into this one
As an Order Independent I must disagree with you Bigfatty yes in the hours you have been on Bs| hasnt been around. However my fleet is a representative of the Bs| without them I wouldnt have my fleet. So I go by there code and enforce it.(Most the time)
Now given I didnt read all of what you said because I pretty much got the gist of it at the start.
Yes we are hostile to Liberty however!
Bs| isnt friendly with them. We just are in a some what of a cease fire with Liberty. This is an RP server and we treat it as such
We chose to leave liberty alone under the grounds that most the Order was all out PvP. And I knew this because I did it myself too. In fact I believe I was one of the first people to make a player wide fleet to attack liberty.
Now since im more on the side of the Bs| I try my best to get most the Independent Order to follow the Bs| regulations
As does Tenacity if im not mistaken
we are both the most well known Independents as we go by a strict RP sorry to say. Attacking Liberty just isnt something the Order does anymore.
EDIT:
After reading all of what you said I will leave what I stated cause my point of view in this still stands.
First off the LN have pirates to deal with constantly. Attacking them makes them think we're terrorist. Which
we are not.
Now to add to it.
I have seen you help "Order ships" get there tags. I put Order ships in quotes for the fact that they are indeed order ships.
Now as much as I dont like the fact you have a zoner jug I will agree with you that you do indeed have a right to have that ship
however. I dont see that you have the right to flaunt it where ever you like. Ships of our sizes are under strict rules for reasons.
in server and in RP.
So for the sake of good RP try to RP what the Order really are. Protesters of Humanity and Destroyers of Nomads. Because if
Im not mistaken even the zoners attack nomads.
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::Incoming Transmission::
::Source::
122nd Order Guard Flagship, Tenabras
::Subject::
THC Vessel
::Begin::
Hello, this is Commodore Caitlyn Shauers of the 122nd Order Guard Osiris Flagship, Tenabras. We have been in
contact with this vessel once before. However it showed no act of aggression toward the Liberty at the time
of this meet. So if we are to see this vessel again we will keep a close eye on it's actions. Sorry to say there
isn't much we can do to keep it from attacking the Liberty vessels. We would fire upon it however shooting
at our own allies is something my crew is not at agreement to do. That is all I can tell you of this matter.
Regard,
122nd Order Guard Commander
Caitlyn Shauers
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Order high command to the THC - Carme - 12-18-2008
[Incoming Transmission]
[Source: <Former Lieutenant> Eduard Dominik]
[Subject: THC Vessel]
I blasted that Prototype ZJug into dust, and got some extreme misfortune for it.
Me and the active battlegroup at the time were all struck by a mysterious force,
which wiped our banks and ships clean of credits and equipment...
We will have to rebuild...
And, apparently for losing high-tech order gear to the great unknown I angered our Lead Admiral,
and have been Demoted to Crewman, and my Bomber has been impounded until he lightens up.
//A RolePlay for Sanctions from Admins, maybe ?
Bs| *Crewman* Eduard Dominik signing off...
[/End Transmission]
Order high command to the THC - Guest - 12-18-2008
Incoming Transmission
Source: LAS Freedom
Source: LAS Freedom
I'll make this very brief, I've seen this ship on quite a number of occasions. Either alone, or with an Osiris along with other escorts, it was mainly during times where Liberty was defenseless, more commonly known as a dead-shift. The most recent occurance I can remember, its commander made some complaint in encountering a force greater than his at a location that is well known to be more guarded than Manhattan itself, and yet I wouldn't be surprised if there have been more attacks since.
I've encountered Order pilots who have given me reason to allow them within Liberty Space. However, he has only given reason for the destruction of his ship. Along with this is a transcript log of previous reports involving some of the encounters with this Zoner Juggernaught
--LSF Krusa Corraine
"Transmission Logs Wrote:November 19
ID: Commander Lawson
We were called in today to attempt to intercept an Order Crewed Zoner Juggernaught (THC-BigFatty) leading a fleet containing at least one Corsair GB and several smaller craft invading NY. We went in with two BC (Kearsarge, BHG-Kidy) and a single GB (LNS Dawn) to try and delay the fleet as long as possible.
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October 12
ID: Recruit Galen Anderson
With the pirates and the smuggler gone, I sent Frank.Horrigan into Alaska, as we had a possible Zoner Juggernought closing in on Liberty. Frank found the Juggernought [THC]BigFatty near the Omicron Minor Jumphole. He had a cargo full of cardimine and Navy pilots, commanders and captains. I turned command over to Sub Lieutenant Malrone, as my shift ends.
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October 7
ID : Zachary Ryans
A short patrol today, but some quality activity. First, the Order ship Big Fatty, a Zoner Juggernaut, was spotted on the West Point-Norfolk lane. I dropped from cruise with Krusa and another Navy man nearby, and the Order ship opened fire preemptively. I dodged his fire and combat was engaged, growing to include 4 Navy ships and the Bounty Hunter Battleship Sangrall. The Order ship was dispatched, and a state of normalcy returned.
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//Could I get a PM about how this is different from how most factions handle unauthorized capital ships? Outcasts, RM, LN, if I'm correct, all take action against unauthorized capital ships, especially those acting out of line.
//Could I get a PM about how this is different from how most factions handle unauthorized capital ships? Outcasts, RM, LN, if I'm correct, all take action against unauthorized capital ships, especially those acting out of line.