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From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - Kullman - 12-21-2008
From: [WDR]Kullman - Older Brother Of The Wanderers
To: James McIntosh, Leader of The Coalition
We would like to make the first step for signing a peace treatty with The Coalition. We think this conflict was motivated by a misunderstood, and we understand there is no profit for nobody to continue with it.
The Wanderers Brotherhood, is a zoner civil faction and try to be neutral to every factions in Sirius, and The Coalition is not an exception.
The Brotherhood don't own any base or system which could be of strategic interest for the SCRA, and we don't have interest in nothing the coalition have, so we understand the hostilities won't give profit neither the wanderers or the coalition.
For avoiding any problem none of our brothers or sisters will enter on Omega 52 system. It will be considered as a forbidden territory for the Brotherhood. Brothers and sister will be encouraged to avoid contacts with The Coalition ships, and, as long they ignore us, we will ignore them.
As the first conflict between our people was after a conversation with two Coalition vessels, we understand this will prevent more problems.
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - Koolmo - 12-22-2008
Transmission to: Kullman, Wanderer Brotherhood
Comm ID: Grand Admiral McIntosh, SCRA
If you want peace with the SCRA, you'll have to follow the following terms. Until you do, we'll continue to vaporize all WDR vessels we see. By the way, I'm generously saving you the need to buy yourself another battlestar, as the last two have been rather decimated...
1) All WDR Destroyers, Cruisers, and Battleships will be decomissioned immediatly, no exceptions. As you claim to be a 'peaceful, civilian' organization, I'm sure you don't need them, and their presence only provokes my pilots. The largest combat ship you shall be allowed is a Gunboat, and any violation of these terms with result in the continuation of hostilities.
2) As reparation for the loss of our supply lines, and the needless destruction of Coalition Civilians, we demand the following be delivered within 48 hours:
-8 Supernova Antimatter Cannons
-16 Mini-Razors
-4 Fighter Armour Upgrades Mk VIII
-10 Nuclear Mine Droppers
You should easily be able to afford it, as you should get quite a load of resources for scrapping your capital ships.
3) In addition, we demand a signed apology, handwritten in triplicate, to all members of the Coalition and any Zoners who've been harmed by your actions. It must be released on a public channel, and made avaliable to all. You must accept full responsibility for causing this little conflict, and genuinely apologize.
If there is no response to these demands within 24 hours, we shall assume you wish to continue your losing fight, and you will not be offered another chance.
For the Coalition! McIntosh out.
Transmission Ended
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - Mannock - 12-22-2008
Comms ID: Mannock Benitez, Wanderer Brotherhood Ambassador
To: Grand Admiral
First I must say sorry for the lose of yours pilots but, I lie (they attack us far from home).
Well yours conditions are "nice", but we have others.
We accept your first term if you accept, that any one of you never attack any vessel (except in selfdefence, of course).
Like second, if you want that war materiel... good, we are not arms dealers, but if you pay, we have no problem in deliver all that you need.
Like third, apologize because you began to shoot... if you want we will writte the apologize in your name. Help others is our principal goal, but for this apology best if you writte it.
Please Grand Admiral McIntosh, untill now we try to avoid that war. All Wanderers pilots have restricted Omega 52 (except if you want the war materiel, I said you that 50% first).
Now, when you really will be ready to a true peace negoatiations, ask for us and you will receive an appropiate response. And son, mature a bit, your strident (and false) speeches are fine for yours followers but not for the humanity (sorry, the rest of).
You have a great potential, use it. So far, you are disappointed me because you are giving a very low profile. Son, listen to your olders and probably your men and women and you gain more friends and less problems.
Mannock Out.
Stop Rodney, dont cut yet... we want peace and you have so many wars, this war with us you can gain, one moment Im thinking, yes nothing. You have powerful enemies and attack us deviate your scarce resources. Son, send us something reasonable to begin with this peace.
Now yes Rodney... Mannock out.
Salud y Republica!!!
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - Koolmo - 12-22-2008
Transmission to: Manny...
Comm ID: Grand Admiral McIntosh, SCRA
Look here, sonny jim ladderson, if you're going to ask for peace, you shouldn't open up by telling me that you're not sorry about one of my boys getting killed, far from home, for no damn good reason.
Second, you've blown it. This was your single chance to make peace, a peace that you asked for, and you blew it. There will be no other chances, the next time you ask for us, there will be no reply. The Coalition is declaring a state of unilateral war on you, for the rest of time. Any warship, transport, training vessel, or fighter you care to field will drown in their own blood.
I won't give you a second of peace that you ask for, if this is the way you respond to a reasonable offer. I hope you're willing to have the blood of a lot of your men on your hands, because it won't be on mine.
For the Revolution! McIntosh out
Transmission Ended
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - Mannock - 12-22-2008
Comms ID: Mannock Benitez
To: Grand Admiral McIntosh
Greetings again son,
that is our peace offer:
-A white peace.
-Wanderers never enter in Omega 52
-Yours warships only can use zoners bases for humanitary reasons and, only if any Zoner grant the docking rights (of course, that must be approval by the Council).
Now please, make an exercice of reasoning and compare both proposals. Son, you are smart and you know that this offer is the best solution to both sides.
Another matter son and this is personal, Manny only is said to me by my friends. You can not gain the right, but in a future... who knows. I can not say sorry for yours pilots losses because they shooted firsts, but they falled (most of them) in Omega 52 (that happens when you attack others in the home of a third side). I regret the loss of human lifes, but we mourn the loss of ours brothers and sisters and I lie if I said that mourn for yours losses.
Mannock out.
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2008
To: WDR representatives
CC: SCRA
Comm. ID: Commodore Ares, SCRA
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I hear a lot of whinging and crying these days, from some very ignorant people. People that claim to be non-aggressive, peaceful civilians.
Answer me this, fools.
If you aren't aggressive, what were you doing in the sovereign territory of a self-confessed aggressive military state?
If you are peaceful civilians, why the battleships?
You are obviously liars, and bad ones at that. Our space, whose mapping is a military secret for defensive purposes, was violated by a group in possession of high-grade military equipment, who then had the gall to say that it was their right to enter such space..
We made peace demands, something the SCRA very rarely does, as an escalation was caused by an attempt to gouge us and cause trouble for our people on Gran Canaria, who have now had to leave their homes.
Our generous offer was ignored.
Now, we enter a state of total war. See the following:
- All WDR ships are legitimate targets.
- This includes fighters, bombers, capital ships, freighters and transports.
- Freighters and transports are legitimate targets because they fly the same colours as their battleships. If [RM] used transports, we'd destroy them too, as they obviously aren't civilians.
- WDR are not considered civilians by the SCRA, as they have tried to act like a military. Act like a hostile military, get treated like a hostile military.
- The WDR have peace demands from the SCRA on the table. Take them or leave them, we don't really care. We don't need to dock on your stations, we don't need you to act peacefully towards us. We have our own station, and we are fully capable of crushing you.
For the people,
Ares out
---Transmission Terminated---
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - Mannock - 12-23-2008
From: Mannock Benitez
To: Commodore Ares
Greetings son,
Fool, hey that is new but not very imaginative. You want answers, later please dont cry and for a change you will hear the thruth.
To your first question: bussines, help others (help, not killing them).
To your second question: son, apart from you there are others dangers (Nomads, Wilde, Terrorists). People like you is the reason because we have capital ships, but we are lucky, we are different from you: we dont attack, only defend us.
And yes for you we are liars, all that doesnt adjusment to you is a lie. And very bad, true, we never said a lie in this matter.
You never made a peace demand, simply you dont want peace. We offered and offer now peace.
The losses of ships for us in not important, the losses of life yes. You maybe can or not destroy us, but you never can win us. Our force are ours ideas (son, ideas are generated under your hair, yes, that all humans name brain... if you need it, we can send you some information about brain and its functions) and yours marvellous guns, ships, pilots never can snatch us.
We never shall surrender, surrender to people like you is the end of the humanity, it will be worsts than a surrender to the Nomads. You had lost this war, you began and if you dont accept the following terms, you are finished.
-White peace.
-Wanderers never enter Omega 52
-Yours warships only can use zoners bases for humanitary reasons and, only if any Zoner grant the docking rights (of course, that must be approval by the Council).
Accept it, forget us like us forget you, son. Remember where and why is your fight...
Goodbye boys... we careful out there
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - bluntpencil2001 - 12-23-2008
To: Mannock
Comm. ID: Commodore Ares, SCRA
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Let me guess, you learned your negotiating skills at Manhattan's $3 Degree College's 5-hour Galactic Diplomacy Course, right?
Here's the short of it:
We don't really care if we're at peace or at war with you. We know war, and are experts at it. You will only provide training for our fighters and bombers.
You claim to be defensive... yet you entered a militarily restricted system. That is an aggressive act of war, and now we started this, apparently. We didn't invade sovereign WDR territory, the WDR crossed our borders without permission.
Travelling through Omega-52 for any reason is enough to get you shot. When you then act like it's your right, things get a lot worse. Doing it for business really infuriates me. We are a Communist revolution. We don't care about your dirty money or your capitalist profiteering.
We can and we will defeat you, utterly. You will either surrender on terms which we will accept, or you will be eradicated. We've done this before, and can do it again.
I hope to receive a handwritten apology soon, preferably dated yesterday.
-Ares out
---Transmission Terminated---
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - Mannock - 12-24-2008
Comms ID: Mannock Benitez
To: Commander Ares
Great son, you make a joke. Thats give me hopes that you are not completely lose, someday you can think for your own.
And yes my dear boy you are experts in war... losing wars. War son, is more than hit and run tactics or attack with overhelming forces... in war people died, in war all lose. The "winner" is who lose less.
See son, your pathetic excuse for attack us its very similar to others in history (the attack of a radio station to begin the World War II in the ancient Earth and the most used: I attack you because you want attack me). Maybe we entered long time ago that Omega 52 was restricted and one of your men said that the system was restricted, then ever that we want to enter we asked permission to pass.
And about Communism, there are so many communism (best uthopic socialism) boy and you follow, probably, the worst of them: people dictatorship. For the people, without the people... No boy you are not revolutionary because you forget the basic principle of any revolution: the people. Be a nice boy and dont talk about others if you dont know who are they.
Im boring to say you that you can try to win, but if you know anything about war... everybody know when a war begins, but never when and how finish the same war. You know our offer, an offer that no harms your reputation and give you the freedom to attack yours real enemies.
The only apology that you will receive is for the deads (yours and ours), but unfortunately is not a consolation for the deads and theirs families.
See you again son.
From Wanderers Brotherhood To SCRA - bluntpencil2001 - 12-24-2008
To: Mannock
Comm. ID: Commodore Ares, SCRA
---Transmission Initiated---
Check your history books, oh honoured diplomat. You'll find we've won plenty wars, and, more recently, even crippled a certain flagship of yours more than once, losing much less than you have. I believe your ships have downed a single light fighter, the least resource-intensive ship in our fleet.
Our strategies appear to work rather well, if we count who has lost the least, as you say, as determining who wins.
We know our philosophies well, oh, expert negotiator, and we know our warfare too. We aren't amongst the most feared fighters in the sector for a reason. Ask your Zoner comrades about your wisest course of action, 'civilian'.
The people will be behind us, our support grows daily, millions flocking to our red banner.
We gave you a chance, we really did. You will now provide our fighters with target practice, something which never goes amiss.
I still haven't received our apologies, and your 'diplomatic' manner is exceedingly insulting, only serving to provoke us further,
Advice: Get a more capable emmissary on the line, possibly one that can read, or capably copy and paste, for example, the ranks of the other faction's leaders.
Ares out
---Transmission Terminated---