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Blix - who is that guy? - Sinh - 02-01-2017
(02-01-2017, 07:40 PM)Vendetta Wrote: It should also be mentioned that there was mention of psychics in the Sigmas in vanilla.
On that subject, I was always confused about one guy in vanillia: Blix. If you remember that guy, he's the one of the Rheinlanders back on New Berlin in Mission 10, who ACTUALLY react with one of Artifacts and looks like infectee - doing this stuff in a very Tekagi-like manner. This episode had never been explained beside being a minor character and had been troubling me the very first time I've seen these two.
I have read some speculations around the Internet and there was even a theory he is a... Good Wilde, who's against the Nomads:
Quote:Blix closes his eyes and makes a purple light in a crystalline object (an Artifact?) between his hands while making strange sounds, much like Tekagi did when he encountered Trent on Tekagi's Arch in Mission 9. However, Blix doesn't attempt to infect Trent, and the information provided is accurate. As such, it could be that Blix is hosting a rogue Nomad that has sided with Humanity. It is also possible that Blix is a human who somehow has psychokinetic powers, or uses an active Dom'Kavash artifact. Given Herr Von Claussen's later comment about reading Trent's thoughts, he is obviously not simply faking.
What do you think about it, guys? Have you been actually thinking about it or people actually oversight these two guys - Blix in particular.
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Shizune - 02-01-2017
(02-01-2017, 08:01 PM)Sinh Wrote:(02-01-2017, 07:40 PM)Vendetta Wrote: It should also be mentioned that there was mention of psychics in the Sigmas in vanilla.
On that subject, I was always confused about one guy in vanillia: Blix. If you remember that guy, he's the one of the Rheinlanders back on New Berlin in Mission 10, who ACTUALLY react with one of Artifacts and looks like infectee - doing this stuff in a very Tekagi-like manner. This episode had never been explained beside being a minor character and had been troubling me the very first time I've seen these two.
I have read some speculations around the Internet and there was even a theory he is a... Good Wilde, who's against the Nomads:
Quote:Blix closes his eyes and makes a purple light in a crystalline object (an Artifact?) between his hands while making strange sounds, much like Tekagi did when he encountered Trent on Tekagi's Arch in Mission 9. However, Blix doesn't attempt to infect Trent, and the information provided is accurate. As such, it could be that Blix is hosting a rogue Nomad that has sided with Humanity. It is also possible that Blix is a human who somehow has psychokinetic powers, or uses an active Dom'Kavash artifact. Given Herr Von Claussen's later comment about reading Trent's thoughts, he is obviously not simply faking.
What do you think about it, guys? Have you been actually thinking about it or people actually oversight these two guys - Blix in particular.
I was corrected about this myself about 2 years ago by King Boo and Huggie. Humans can be born on discovery with the ability of the Wilde but the chances of it are 1 out of like, 10 billion to happen to any child. In this case, as stated in the lore (King Boo's lore) Blix and his friend were special in the part Blix could use Wilde abilities which is why he was able to hide in Rheinland during the mass infection, and his friend was able to communicate what was said, which is very well possible
As for the reason he didn't infect Trent was simple, he was not infected, rather he just had the abilities of the wilde which is how he and his friend could communicate with Claussen.
The thing is, as I said already, the chances of any human to be born with said powers, are extremely and astronomically rare in of itself. This is the story discovery put behind it, as I figured I'd ask and see if it was possible.
As for 'rogue wilde' its not really possible, once your infected and the nomad takes control, thats it, game over. A nomad itself can kill both the incubi and the host at any time if they please, the closests thing you had to rogue nomads, or anything related to that, was Alley's personal RP during her time with the Aurora, beyond that, once you get infected, there is no turning back.
Edit: Crap, Shizune here, wrong account
Fixed it for you. – Syf
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Kauket - 02-01-2017
I was actually reading the Freelancer script the other day for knowledge concerning the Nomads and Blix, and as far as I'm aware, he uses the Artifact to read minds, as Artifacts actually contained information, power, etc within them. Artifacts are pretty much considered the crystalline tools of the Nomads (surprise surprise, Nomads are crystalline too), either as datapads, or as a physical key to do certain actions.
It only worked with people who were born with some psychic ability. Blix isn't infested. Though his background is ambiguous.
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - nOmnomnOm - 02-01-2017
So Artifacts are like Crystal Skulls?
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Shizune - 02-01-2017
(02-01-2017, 08:21 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: So Artifacts are like Crystal Skulls?
As Auzari put it, artifacts act like storage and keys and what not, but since I'm not really good at explaining it, I'll include a log between me and Huggie about storing information in artifacts
Quote:the artifacts themselves are telepathic recordings.. its kinda like yeah thier pretty but entire subjects libraries programs are all done telepathicly the daam stored much of thier valueable stuff in series of artifacts that spoke to one other through tones like the vaults do. and sadly i think the idea was the vaults all shared a connection that way.. but the humans cleaned the one out so theres no way to find the others unless you can get one the of relics to sing its location. so artifacts are kinda.. brains and can literally sing. hence why i injected so much "song" language intot he nomspeech back int he day.
Thats word from word from Huggie on skype, so there we go
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Backo - 02-01-2017
(02-01-2017, 08:08 PM)Solar Runner Council Command Wrote: As for 'rogue wilde' its not really possible, once your infected and the nomad takes control, thats it, game over. A nomad itself can kill both the incubi and the host at any time if they please, the closests thing you had to rogue nomads, or anything related to that, was Alley's personal RP during her time with the Aurora, beyond that, once you get infected, there is no turning back.
Do human hosts have any control at all then? Like a lot of Wilde I've seen on Discovery still seem to contain to some extent their human-ish personality. Is that all faked work of the incubi or is the human part still somewhat there even if controlled?
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Stone21 - 02-01-2017
For example, inside the artifact Trent had, it was a giant map. Also, the artifact was used to close the gate nomads were coming from.
So yes artifacts have something inside them, information or keys.
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Chrysalis - 02-01-2017
(02-01-2017, 09:02 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote:(02-01-2017, 08:08 PM)Solar Runner Council Command Wrote: As for 'rogue wilde' its not really possible, once your infected and the nomad takes control, thats it, game over. A nomad itself can kill both the incubi and the host at any time if they please, the closests thing you had to rogue nomads, or anything related to that, was Alley's personal RP during her time with the Aurora, beyond that, once you get infected, there is no turning back.
Do human hosts have any control at all then? Like a lot of Wilde I've seen on Discovery still seem to contain to some extent their human-ish personality. Is that all faked work of the incubi or is the human part still somewhat there even if controlled?
As I understand it, the human can retain control but has to act in line with the instructions it receives through the incubus. If the human is uncooperative, the incubus can intercept and correct any of the human's actions, not to mention the constant threat of death as it can quite easily sever the spinal column to which it is attached.
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Kauket - 02-01-2017
(02-01-2017, 09:21 PM)Chrysalis Wrote:They don't need to threaten it with death because they can directly control the host. They can also change their ways of thinking, I also believe that the Incubi can change the biology too, adapting to it.(02-01-2017, 09:02 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote:(02-01-2017, 08:08 PM)Solar Runner Council Command Wrote: As for 'rogue wilde' its not really possible, once your infected and the nomad takes control, thats it, game over. A nomad itself can kill both the incubi and the host at any time if they please, the closests thing you had to rogue nomads, or anything related to that, was Alley's personal RP during her time with the Aurora, beyond that, once you get infected, there is no turning back.
Do human hosts have any control at all then? Like a lot of Wilde I've seen on Discovery still seem to contain to some extent their human-ish personality. Is that all faked work of the incubi or is the human part still somewhat there even if controlled?
As I understand it, the human can retain control but has to act in line with the instructions it receives through the incubus. If the human is uncooperative, the incubus can intercept and correct any of the human's actions, not to mention the constant threat of death as it can quite easily sever the spinal column to which it is attached.
The only time they'll kill the host is if the parasite is threatened to be removed, or that the host is no longer needed.
RE: Blix - who is that guy? - Chrysalis - 02-01-2017
(02-01-2017, 09:25 PM)Auzari Wrote:(02-01-2017, 09:21 PM)Chrysalis Wrote:They don't need to threaten it with death because they can directly control the host. They can also change their ways of thinking, I also believe that the Incubi can change the biology too, adapting to it.(02-01-2017, 09:02 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote:(02-01-2017, 08:08 PM)Solar Runner Council Command Wrote: As for 'rogue wilde' its not really possible, once your infected and the nomad takes control, thats it, game over. A nomad itself can kill both the incubi and the host at any time if they please, the closests thing you had to rogue nomads, or anything related to that, was Alley's personal RP during her time with the Aurora, beyond that, once you get infected, there is no turning back.
Do human hosts have any control at all then? Like a lot of Wilde I've seen on Discovery still seem to contain to some extent their human-ish personality. Is that all faked work of the incubi or is the human part still somewhat there even if controlled?
As I understand it, the human can retain control but has to act in line with the instructions it receives through the incubus. If the human is uncooperative, the incubus can intercept and correct any of the human's actions, not to mention the constant threat of death as it can quite easily sever the spinal column to which it is attached.
The only time they'll kill the host is if the parasite is threatened to be removed, or that the host is no longer needed.
You're right, I guess. Bad choice of words on my part.
Regarding the part about changing the host's biology, yeah, the incubus matures, grows and becomes more integrated with the host. Though I guess there's a line where the symbiotic relationship moves on from "infectee" to "hybrid" as the two organisms co-evolve and integrate further.