(05-14-2017, 09:51 AM)Crypto Wrote:

(05-14-2017, 09:04 AM)Jansen Wrote:

(05-04-2017, 06:16 AM)Thyrzul Wrote:

(05-04-2017, 06:08 AM)sindroms Wrote: People expect admins to do things, people hate when admins do things.
People expect devs to do things, people hate it when devs do things.
People expect people to do things, people hate it when people do things.

things that do not match up with their own expectations, that is.

Way to oversimplify a complex issue. Thing is, what you just wrote, in the form you wrote, is simply not true, and has been a bad meme for years now. We are not clones of eachother, changing our minds at a daily basis, try making a difference between people and people and perhaps you'll finally find some sense in the apparent chaos. There is some, you just need to look for it, not just pretend.

Im german, we tend to have bad experiences with making differences between people and people. Just saying...
What Spazzy likely meant could also be boiled down to 'whatever we do, not everyone will be happy about it'. Thats simply the truth, you cant make everyone happy in a diversified community, but you can at least try to make the place enjoyable for the majority.

(05-05-2017, 10:54 PM)Dave.Synk Wrote: Again. The Staff that can't handle it, drop it. I don't get it why people just can't let go of their green name and make the community choose fresh. Point, look for new freshmeat with fresh powers and energy, fresh ideas and on and on.

What's your problem guys in doing that ?

I don't think it hurts to look for new people who know and can do the Admin/dev job for some that are slowly getting "rusty" to say the least.

I have been doing this fun job since 2012 and stopped recently because RL obligations just got into the way more and more in the past few months, leaving little to no time to actually contribte (OHNOEZ AN ADMIN LETTING GO OF THEIR GREEN NAME!!!1!). So I guess I could say that I have seen quite a few staff members come and go.
Chosing new people to do the job is something that is easily said, but it simply doesnt work the way you imagine it and leaving the choice entirely up to the Commnity is likely not going to end too well.
If you appoint someone for an Admin position (or even a Mod position to a bit lesser extent) then you should be able to trust that person to deal with personal data, having access to player and server files (which includes the potential to just destroy disco completely and irreversibly within a very short amount of time), to be unbiased and to be able to deal with the drama that runs before and behind the scenes for more than a month (which is the time someone needs to actually understand the basics and to be able to really do the job), otherwise all the effort spend to train that person is wasted and could have been used to actually get other things done. This all boils down to having a very limited amount of 'Admin Material' within the community.
Also, if you want to get rid of all Admins and get new ones, who is going to show them how things even work? The 'removed' Admins likely wont, so good luck with this.

Yep, there are a couple admins, who got rid of their green name.

What I really want to see is though something like a public application thread for admins and devs, where anyone is allowed to apply and anyone is allowed to read. Every 2-3 months there could be a community poll about one of these applicants. Of course these polls must have a minimum vote count to reflect the active community tendency realistically and being justifiable.

(05-14-2017, 11:12 AM)Birb Wrote: @"Crypto" The community itself isn't adult enough to be even considered as responsible for such a thing. The fact the closed groups of players can unleash tonnes of toxicity towards players not fitting their personal views is the finest example. There are many form of abuse that is not sanctionable within server rules, yet harmful to the player and his activity.

(05-14-2017, 02:11 PM)Jansen Wrote: it wont work in practice