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Wyvern VHF - Kyoi - 12-07-2017
Ship is way too small for a VHF. It's basically the Chimaera with stats that are almost the same as the Guardian (same turn rate, slightly higher core, slightly lower armor and b/b). There's little counter-balance to the fact that it is ridiculously small other than the low armor. Kusari has access to decent guns and so it's not lacking in firepower either. There isn't a reliable way to beat this when it shieldruns, or when using a lower refire setup. Dump some lights on it and you have a very small Rabisu.
tl;dr Good core + slightly low armor + average turn rate + decent guns + VERY SMALL SIZE
I could be wrong though, discuss.
RE: Wyvern VHF - Yaoquizque - 12-07-2017
[19:35:44] Hubert: aren't there fighters in game that are a lot more unbalanced
[19:36:25] Yaoquizque: wraith
[19:36:27] Yaoquizque: odin
[19:36:39] Yaoquizque: the eagle got buffed recently and is quite ridiculous
[19:36:45] Hubert: I mean, it could get a rebalance
[19:36:48] Hubert: but I'm not sure how op it is
[19:37:03] Hubert: https://p3d.in/8JG4U
[19:37:09] Hubert: I made this comparison back then
[19:37:26] Hubert: and I think I met my goal of having it between chimmy and guardian
[19:37:27] Yaoquizque: ya
[19:37:40] Hubert: also I think the teeth catch shots
Directly from your friendly Kusarian neighborhood chat.
I personally don't think it's as op as you picture it.
RE: Wyvern VHF - Banned player t202085 - 12-07-2017
I think it's balanced, not had any issues with it. Shield running is cancer but anyone can do that in any ship
RE: Wyvern VHF - Apollon - 12-07-2017
While I don't the ship to be as OP as you believe, I do think that it's a little underscaled. But that's the only thing to it, really.
RE: Wyvern VHF - Giorgio - 12-07-2017
(12-07-2017, 07:47 PM)Silverlight Wrote: I think it's balanced, not had any issues with it. Shield running is cancer but anyone can do that in any ship
Agreed. Besides, Kusari snubs have always been balanced towards each other first and foremost.
RE: Wyvern VHF - Yaoquizque - 12-07-2017
There may be an issue with its hit-box though.
A few shots were going through it when I shot Will's ship from point blank.
Would have to investigate further to confirm.
RE: Wyvern VHF - Kyoi - 12-07-2017
I think it might have to do with the crosshair on it (I'm also certain that the crosshair positioning won't allow you to take advantage of the longer wingspan than the chimaera unless you are on top/below of it diagonally, in which case you already have positioning advantage), but it is interesting to see that I do not simply get hit, flying this ship, doing absurd movements (boxing 100m away from people) compared to ships that I'm more familiar with. There are other broken ships that are clearly obnoxious, like you said, but I assumed these are getting attention, since they've been around much longer than the Wyvern.
Would be nice if people would at least test this, to see if there's anything wrong with it. I've no issue taking this and destroying Rabisus, AI drones, Odins, etc over the past week.
edit: slightly ninja'd
RE: Wyvern VHF - Emperor Tekagi - 12-07-2017
The Wyvern as it is, is quite fine. Maybe a bit small. Other Kusari VHFs aren't really that outclassed either, stat-wise atleast, except the size difference. (Responsiveness of the Wyvern is much better though if you ask me)
Wyvern
Powercore
12400
Recharge
1270
Armor
10800
Cargo
65
Nanobots
64
Batteries
64
Agility
1.1707
Tachi
Powercore
11400
Recharge
1160
Armor
10750
Cargo
65
Nanobots
62
Batteries
62
Agility
1.1905
Class
Irezumi
Powercore
11400
Recharge
1160
Armor
12400
Cargo
65
Nanobots
69
Batteries
69
Agility
1.186
RE: Wyvern VHF - Emperor Tekagi - 12-07-2017
(12-07-2017, 08:00 PM)Yaoquizque Wrote: There may be an issue with its hit-box though.
A few shots were going through it when I shot Will's ship from point blank.
Would have to investigate further to confirm.
I noticed that in my recent fights too.
RE: Wyvern VHF - Kyoi - 12-07-2017
Agreed on the stats (more or less a variant on the Guardian), the problem is really the size. And the size does matter a lot, because of how much better it becomes at movement in general, and the kind of stunts you can pull off close to someone (and even worse, further away).