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Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - Minh - 12-19-2018 I have disassembled and reassembled my good old PC forth and back a few times and I found no solution to its overheating, despite initial results being promising. I cannot even afford the mid-range rig at the moment. Job hunting sucks - and it has been going for months now.
I am making a break for an indefinite time. o7 RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - The Syndicate Leagues - 12-19-2018 (12-19-2018, 12:07 AM)Minh Wrote: Good luck! RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - evanz - 12-19-2018 if its main cpu, try cleaning off old paste and redoing RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - DSE|= - 12-19-2018 (12-19-2018, 09:47 AM)evanz Wrote: if its main cpu, try cleaning off old paste and redoing It could well be the graphics card overheating, so give all the heat sinks a thorough vacuum. RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - Minh - 12-19-2018 That's why I disassembled entire PC and even cleaned out stuff piece by piece. Even gave a new paste, like evanz proposed. After week of trying, I just came into conclusion if my old PC is dying, there's no point. It is already pretty dated and I think it already hit a decade. However, with inability to afford to get a new PC - it was the reason why I got Xbox One S some time ago, because it costs three times less than a mid-range GPU alone - pretty unlikely I will return anytime soon. I still have a laptop, but that's more thing for writing stuff and scrolling through net. RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - ronillon - 12-19-2018 (12-19-2018, 10:41 AM)Minh Wrote: That's why I disassembled entire PC and even cleaned out stuff piece by piece. Even gave a new paste, like evanz proposed. After week of trying, I just came into conclusion if my old PC is dying, there's no point. It is already pretty dated and I think it already hit a decade. However, with inability to afford to get a new PC - it was the reason why I got Xbox One S some time ago, because it costs three times less than a mid-range GPU alone - pretty unlikely I will return anytime soon. I still have a laptop, but that's more thing for writing stuff and scrolling through net. Hardware failing on you indeed sucks. Had similar problem with my main rig a week ago. It freezed a couple of times during a week and on one weekend hung over morning it just did not start at all. Now that I shared my own trouble, lets try to help you. I know after a week of messing with it, you probably do not even have the will to deal with it further, but I will try anyway. Couple questions first: - How do you know your PC is overheating? Could it not be another issue? Did you tried different OS? (ex. Linux on USB) - Are you using any temperature monitoring software? ex. HWiNFO - Which component is overheating? What temperatures it has? - What type of PC it is, do you know any brands/models? RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - NoMe - 12-19-2018 sometime win7 cause it via the the automatic update, the RAM and after the cpu (svchost, trusted installer). i have already seen it on 2 laptop and 1 pc when win7 want it's update, you are almost obliged to accept it's just an idea, i don't know your problem exactly RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - Minh - 12-19-2018 Divided it into abcd, instead of -, so here we go.. a) How do you know your PC is overheating? Could it not be another issue? Did you tried different OS? (ex. Linux on USB) Both from the temperature program and by the fact it turns off due to overheating. Linux - I never could use it. Tried W7 but it doesn't recognize GPU, so got stuck on Windows XP SP3. b) Are you using any temperature monitoring software? ex. HWiNFO Yes, I'm using Core Temp and used HWiNFO just to check everything else. c) Which component is overheating? What temperatures it has? The cores seem to overheat, despite vaccuming and quite "new" radiators. As for temperature, idle-to-low is around 30-40 on both cores, heavy-gaming makes it jump up to around 70-80 degrees, at times even to 100. d) What type of PC it is, do you know any brands/models? It's a desktop, using pretty dated elements (e.g. ATI Radeon HD 2400) already without much chance to swap anything due to obsolete motherboard. To put it short, investing into this PC would be just waste of money (for two years already), yet I cannot afford even mid-range PC as for now. Investing money into the rig that I can afford would be as pointless for many reasons. That's why I got Xbox One S few months ago, as I found it the best alternative. I've been behind gaming for pretty 6-7 years already, as even Skyrim refused to work in more than 10 fps, so... Yeah. That's why XB1S - especially when component prices went high, with GPU prices nowadays being truly awful. I mean, even PC gaming went nuts when it comes to game prices if you are Polish... thanks EU. RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - ronillon - 12-19-2018 (12-19-2018, 05:05 PM)Minh Wrote: Divided it into abcd, instead of -, so here we go.. I have found Linux Live CDs (USB) very useful, since all you have to do is burn the ISO files on CD or USB to get them working. Good way to be sure the problem is not software related (most likely). Because the alternative is usually re-installing the OS. But lets put that aside for a moment. It would be helpful if I knew exact model of the CPU, so I can determine what temperatures it should run at. Many older CPUs run quiet hot and 70+ might be "alright" for them. It is probably the spikes to 100+ that are the issue. I presume the PC was running fine until recently. Unless anything in the PC or its surrounding changed recently, there is not many things, that could be wrong. Of course there can be a component failing or on the edge, especially with old hardware, that can cause all sorts of issues. Since you cleaned everything and applied new thermal paste on CPU (Are you sure you did it right? Wrong or wrongly applied thermal paste might be even worse, than the old one.) my suspect would be fans, as they are one of the few moving parts that could have an effect on temperature. If that was the case, it should be pretty cheap to fix. a) Turn the PC on and let it sit in idle for couple hours. So we can see it is stable without load. (Disable monitor sleep, screen saver and sleep mode. Possibly have temperature and load graphs on screen. HWinfo can do that.) If it passes this, we can pretty much rule out software/virus/malware issue. That being said, running an antivirus scan after the idle test is not a bad idea. Although connecting the drive to another PC and running the scan from there would be better. b) Get me models of CPU, MOBO. So we can determine nominal values. c) Screenshot of temperatures, load and fan speeds in IDLE and UNDER LOAD would be nice too. Ideally include all temperature sensors. d) Check the FANs, are they running smooth? Are they making squeeky or other types of noises other than sound of the airflow over heatsinks? e) Check the BIOS for any settings related to FANs and temperatures. There might be settings for performance/silence RE: Absence Notification - Hardware Failure - Minh - 12-20-2018 I'm afraid that I have to take away longer break from in-game activities since PC finally gave out its last breaths - and like I said, there is no sense in investing into this PC anymore. I'm writing from the "office" laptop that gives vanillia Freelancer around 15 fps, rendering it heavily unplayable. There is no chance I can get even a mid-range PC, at least in the next months - if not a whole year. So long guys. o7 |