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Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Victor Steiner - 06-20-2019
Oracle|Explorer has been sanctioned for:
Consequences:
Quote:Tampering with Evidence, Vexatious Litigation
Consequences:
You filed a violation report against another player at which point we discovered that you had in fact tampered with the evidence you submitted to have it lean in your favour. Not only is this an extraordinarily bad case of poor sportsmanship but also a case of outright lying.
As a result of this trickery, you have lost your guns and a number of credits. I strongly advise you not to do this again.
As a result of this trickery, you have lost your guns and a number of credits. I strongly advise you not to do this again.
If you require evidence, you may request such via PM from a Staff member. Only the accused or an official faction leader of the accused person's faction may request such. Once you have the evidence, and if you wish to dispute it, you may post in the Sanction Thread below. Do not continue PM'ing a staff member, as that will result in your Appeal being denied. If you PM a staff or post in the sanction thread and you are not directly involved, you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions up to a ban. Blaming members of your immediate family, neighbors, friends, pets, and assorted Orcs, Trolls and any other legendary creatures may result in the use of GM Right #CTE 750AE
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Nightowl - 06-20-2019
Interesting.
(It is my ship.)
So someone brake a rule and i get the punishment. More than 2 weeks later…
And where was the point that i should have manipulate?
I think i have the right to know that.
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Goliath - 06-20-2019
I would like the evidence and/or full logs if its the case, please.
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Nightowl - 07-01-2019
*bump*
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Nightowl - 07-02-2019
Ok, still no evidence.
Hmpf.
Ok, we all have a life without freelancer (at least i hope we all), and that's a good thing!!!
But sorry, reacting to a report after nearly tree weeks is really not good.
And bringing no evidence since over one week doesn't make it better.
If you don't have time, just post an "sorry, i have something else to do, i'll bring it later".
That is not the best way, but it is better than post nothing.
In fact if this sanction should stay (where virtually no rule was broken by me), so the Game Masters also have to be Sanctioned.
Discovery Community Forum and Server Rules Wrote:-- Game Masters are obliged:
To develop and safeguard the health of the Discovery Freelancer community, official server, and forums.
To be fair and treat all players equally, independent of their level and faction alignment.
Not to mix server roleplaying with server administration in any way.
Not to ignore any cases of server rules violations that are reported.
In fact, the beginning of this sanction (my Rule Violation Report) was read and edited (Is edited the right word here?).
At least by one Game Master (maybe more, i don't know how you handle things like that here).
And this Game Master didn't did not comply with his commitment (see above), becouse in my post is clearly recognizing the broken rule. And that was ignored.
To make that clear:
- I do not say anything against the punishment for the offense!
- I'm damm shure that i didn't tampered anything so that it looks better for me. And when i made a mistake, i have to get a sanction for that.
But as long as the whole thing has lasted, the whole thing is simply too long. Especially the reactions of the Game Master.
When you need more manpower, ask for that. I'm shure that you will find many people here that can help you. Even if not all of them have to be Game Masters.
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - xiphos - 07-02-2019
(07-02-2019, 08:07 AM)Nightowl Wrote: Ok, still no evidence.
Evidence will be provided as soon as possible.
As for the rest of your questions/concerns. They will be addressed in the GM feedback thread because this sanction notice thread is not the place to have a discussion about it
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Nightowl - 07-10-2019
Ok, one more week without evidence is over.
Sorry, but i don't understand why i didn't get an evidence in less than 3 weeks. This is not acceptable.
You can't bring new sanctions and ignore the request for evidence.
I request the evidence in the next 24 hour.
If you don't bring the evidence in that time, i take it, that you have no evidence. In this case i request to take back the complete sanction!
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Nightowl - 07-12-2019
I've got the "evidence", when i should call it that.
Sorry, but the evidence is a bad joke and bring exact NO proof, that i had manipulate something.
It brings more evidence that I am innocent of what I am accused of.
Xarlog got my full answer to it per PM.
If someone else from the GameMaster like to have it, just ask.
I would post it here for everyone, but there are names and other data in there, what are not for everyone. My faction leader and his representative also got the answer.
I request a real evidence or to take back the complete sanction in the next 7 days!
Update:
After a look with an Ex-Admin of an other Freelancer-Server to the evidence, i must ask: Do you Game Masters know what you are doing?
"Evidenc Wrote:02/06/2019 14:25:08 PC1->PC2: Stop there.I'v got the sanction, why i didn't post the red lines in my report.
02/06/2019 14:25:09 Oracle|Explorer->EW13: Greetings
02/06/2019 14:25:13 PC2->EW13: Bonjour
02/06/2019 14:25:14 PC1->PC2: Tax is 5 mill for mining.
(PC1 and PC2 are changed names, both not my ship)
Let me bring the main Point a litte bit clother:
Quote:PC1->PC2:
Quote:Oracle|Explorer->EW13:Do you see the difference?
Is it possible, that "PC1->PC2:" is a Personal Channel (default green ingame) and not the Local Channel (default blue ingame)?
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - Nightowl - 07-12-2019
*update*
RE: Player Sanctioned: Oracle|Explorer - St.Denis - 07-13-2019
It transpires that a mistake was made in processing the Violation Report associated with this Sanction Notice.
The Team wholeheartedly apologise for this mistake and rescind the Sanction.
Please contact me for the restoration of your gear and cash.