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Hegemon mining Helium. - darkwind - 11-30-2019
Bug: Hegemon doesn't have mining bonus 3.0 for Helium in Penn
Assumed reason: Hegemon isn't considered as a mining ship.
Calculations:
1) I tried Freelancer ID + IFF + Surveyor = 2101 helium per 10 shots = means 200 average speed.(let's consider it 3.0 standard)
2) I tried Kamome + GMG ID + IFF = 2132 Helium per 20 shots = 106-120 average (2.0 bonus for GMG matches)
3) Freelancer ID + IFF + Hegemon supposed to show number's like for Surveyor, but
I received 68 average helium per shot.(Heavy mining 3 class were used all right)
4) (Hegemon results match when other player tried mining with Mastadon(not mining ship) + Freelancer ID, he had the same 67 average helium per shot)
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - 7AlphaOne1 - 11-30-2019
I believe this is due to Hegemon not having a bonus towards Helium and Helium 3, because of them being fuel/gases. This is specifically why the Kamome exists: As a gas mining ship.
Likewise, Hegemons have a higher mining rate with ores, which Kamome cant mine effectively
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - darkwind - 11-30-2019
(11-30-2019, 12:01 PM)7AlphaOne1 Wrote: I believe this is due to Hegemon not having a bonus towards Helium and Helium 3, because of them being fuel/gases. This is specifically why the Kamome exists: As a gas mining ship.
Likewise, Hegemons have a higher mining rate with ores, which Kamome cant mine effectively
By wiki he is supposed to be able mining Helium.
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=155629
FIrst wiki:
![[Image: hMpLKD9.png]](https://i.imgur.com/hMpLKD9.png)
Second wiki:
![[Image: ZYfUESg.png]](https://i.imgur.com/ZYfUESg.png)
in FLhook, we can see ID of ships which receive mining bonus
https://github.com/DiscoveryGC/FLHook/blob/90197b56f6a52d5917290641571952098a5d0729/Binaries/bin-conf/flhook_plugins/minecontrol.cfg
commodity_helium, 3.0, *, dsy_license_miner, dsy_img_miner, dsy_ga_miner, dsy_gms_shf, dsy_gms_vhf, dsy_gms_lf, dsy_miner, dsy_somtaaw_fr, dsy_somtaaw_hf, dsy_somtaaw_lf, dsy_kadesh_fr, dsy_spatial, dsy_ecoturret, dsy_ecogun_lf, dsy_miningturret
Checking hegemon
https://github.com/DiscoveryGC/FLHook/blob/90197b56f6a52d5917290641571952098a5d0729/Binaries/bin-conf/flhook_plugins/shipcompat.cfg
It's indeed item = dsy_miner
He is supposed to be having Helium bonus!
And finally, have you been in Penn mining cloud? There are even multiple NPC Hegemons!
![[Image: aiWQev3.png]](https://i.imgur.com/aiWQev3.png)
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - Banned player t202085 - 11-30-2019
"all execpt helium-3"
IT can mine everything else but it cant mine h-3 its also the worst ship in the game anyway
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - darkwind - 11-30-2019
(11-30-2019, 12:33 PM)Silverlight Wrote: "all execpt helium-3"
IT can mine everything else but it cant mine h-3 its also the worst ship in the game anyway
The situation discussed is not about "helium-3", but about "helium".
worst or not. it's a ship with big cargo.
It could be not a bad thing for beginner's helium mining,
being a transporter at the same time.
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - NoMe - 11-30-2019
often, the helium is a bit of the same class as the H3
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - kerfy - 11-30-2019
1.. hegemon is a cool ship.. 2. kaiser is way way cooler and better..... thats my 2 cents..
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - darkwind - 11-30-2019
Technically I would not mind having only GMG mining helium. But they have a lower drop rate than Freelancers. 2.0 instead of 3.0 bonus. And Hegemon could be bought right there near Erie as a ship for beginning miners.
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - 7AlphaOne1 - 11-30-2019
1. Helium 3 and Helium come under same class
2. Larger the hold of a ship, slower the mining rate
3. Gun overlap: Smaller the ship, closer all the guns. so multiple turrets able to shoot same asteroid, better(Multiplied) Yield
4. Penn field is specifically geared towards new players, so I assume Hege doesnt qualify for the same bonus as a freighter (For Kamome GMG mining bonus applies)
RE: Hegemon mining Helium. - darkwind - 11-30-2019
(11-30-2019, 06:56 PM)7AlphaOne1 Wrote: 1. Helium 3 and Helium come under same class
2. Larger the hold of a ship, slower the mining rate
3. Gun overlap: Smaller the ship, closer all the guns. so multiple turrets able to shoot same asteroid, better(Multiplied) Yield
4. Penn field is specifically geared towards new players, so I assume Hege doesnt qualify for the same bonus as a freighter (For Kamome GMG mining bonus applies)
Ticket could be closed.
Your third point has made a point
Firing from cockpit view of Hegemon with concentrated fire from all turrets, I have 120-150 average income per shot in Hegemon