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Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Saronsen - 12-04-2019
Why make a weapon that sees almost zero use also limited to a small number of ships of one specific class due to its 520k power cost? 12 out of 44 gunboats can use it, one is restricted to a faction (scorpion), the other is a nomad gunboat which human tech is always funny with nomad stuff, so realistically, 10 out of 42 gunboats.
For reference, the annihilator uses 260k power but fires two projectiles, meaning it requires 520k in reality, which only heavy gunboats can field, and it's only fireable every 25 seconds anyway.
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - darkwind - 12-04-2019
(12-04-2019, 07:15 PM)Saronsen Wrote: Why make a weapon that sees almost zero use also limited to a small number of ships of one specific class due to its 520k power cost? 12 out of 44 gunboats can use it, one is restricted to a faction (scorpion), the other is a nomad gunboat which human tech is always funny with nomad stuff, so realistically, 10 out of 44 gunboats.
For reference, the annihilator uses 260k power but fires two projectiles, meaning it requires 520k in reality, which only heavy gunboats can field, and it's only fireable every 25 seconds anyway.
It would be not reasonable I think to have 390k powercost requirement for a powerful gun.
600k cored vessels have big sizes and slower turn rates, which make big gunboats reasonable targets for bigger ships/or bombers/snubs or whatever.
making powerful gun for ultra small gunboat feels OP.
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Saronsen - 12-04-2019
(12-04-2019, 07:27 PM)darkwind Wrote: It would be not reasonable I think to have 390k powercost requirement for a powerful gun.
600k cored vessels have big sizes and slower turn rates, which make big gunboats reasonable targets for bigger ships/or bombers/snubs or whatever.
making powerful gun for ultra small gunboat feels OP.
It's a torpedo with the slowest tracking speeds in the game (.11), even slower than the nightmare torpedo (.13) that is defeated by a countermeasure or any sort of maneuvering.
If it was so overpowered, you'd actually see it being used. It's a niche weapon at best, and a niche weapon restricted to less than a quarter of all gunboats
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Hemlocke - 12-04-2019
I'd welcome the change, if a missile weapon requires you to use ram tactics, chances are it sucks.
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - darkwind - 12-04-2019
(12-04-2019, 07:30 PM)Saronsen Wrote:(12-04-2019, 07:27 PM)darkwind Wrote: It would be not reasonable I think to have 390k powercost requirement for a powerful gun.
600k cored vessels have big sizes and slower turn rates, which make big gunboats reasonable targets for bigger ships/or bombers/snubs or whatever.
making powerful gun for ultra small gunboat feels OP.
It's a torpedo with the slowest tracking speeds in the game (.11), even slower than the nightmare torpedo (.13) that is defeated by a countermeasure or any sort of maneuvering.
If it was so overpowered, you'd actually see it being used. It's a niche weapon at best, and a niche weapon restricted to less than a quarter of all gunboats
good enough logic.
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Saronsen - 12-05-2019
obligatory bump
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Saronsen - 12-07-2019
torpedo me daddy
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Groshyr - 12-07-2019
#FixTrinity
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Saronsen - 12-07-2019
p sure i modified the right bit of the weapon_equip
Code:
[Gun]
nickname = dsy_annihilator_torpedo
ids_name = 520191
ids_info = 520192
DA_archetype = equipment\models\turret\dualtorpedo.cmp
material_library = equipment\models\dualtorpedo.mat
HP_child = HPConnect
hit_pts = 75000
explosion_resistance = 0.330000
debris_type = debris_turret_small
parent_impulse = 20
child_impulse = 80
volume = 5.000000
mass = 10
hp_gun_type = hp_turret_special_5
damage_per_fire = 0
power_usage = 195000
refire_delay = 25
muzzle_velocity = 45
toughness = 32
light_anim = l_gun01_flash
projectile_archetype = dsy_annihilator_torpedo_ammo
separation_explosion = sever_debris
auto_turret = true
turn_rate = 15
lootable = false
dispersion_angle = 6
LODranges = 0, 3000bless
RE: Gunboat Annihilator to 195k (390k) power cost. - Saronsen - 12-15-2019
you know it