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POB Questions - [Done] - Xenon - 05-17-2020

Greetings everyone,

I am confused about some changes regarding the POB mechanics and siege conditions/rules
I asked several players around and checked all the rules threads that I can find, but I am still very confused.
Would you please tell me,
  • Are the defense arrays of a POB indestructible?
  • Are the attackers who siege a POB allowed to shoot the defense arrays? are there any certain conditions/information I should know about it?
  • There was a bug concerning POB defense arrays which makes the defense arrays stop shooting after exploding and respawning several times, so is this bug still exist?
  • Are there any new rules or information added to the server regarding shooting defense arrays during the siege?

Thank you in advance Smile


RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Maltz - 05-17-2020

Defense platforms are free to shoot during the siege and they will respawn within a minute or so.

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Xenon - 05-17-2020

Bump for these questions
Especially question number 3, Thanks @Maltz for answering the 1st question

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Skorak - 05-17-2020

(05-17-2020, 01:16 AM)Xenon Wrote: [indent][font=Montserrat]
  • Are the defense arrays of a POB indestructible?
  • Are the attackers who siege a POB allowed to shoot the defense arrays? are there any certain conditions/information I should know about it?
  • There was a bug concerning POB defense arrays which makes the defense arrays stop shooting after exploding and respawning several times, so is this bug still exist?
  • Are there any new rules or information added to the server regarding shooting defense arrays during the siege?

• They are not but should be
• They shouldn't be but will as the platforms are destructible
• It does which is why they are supposed to be indestructible
• No direct rules

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Karlotta - 05-17-2020

They respawn within less than a minute.

I'm not sure about the bug where they stop shooting if you destroy them, but there is a bug where they have weird and bad targetting priority. It can happen that instead of shooting the nearest ship, they shoot at a ship that is farther away, or that they stop shooting some ships for unknown reasons, other than the platform being shot. I think it may somehow be linked to new ships moving in and out of their range.

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Xenon - 05-17-2020

@Skorak & @Karlotta - Thank you dudes, that was direct and straight to the point
So bugs still around for years and didn't get fixed yet, wow, I didn't really believe that there was no fix done yet ... after all these years lol
Players ofc from time to time use the bug, then some of them get caught and get banned 6 months to come back later use the same bug again, While some don't get caught and continue using that bug to ruin the server gameplay and repel players from being here -- What is really interesting to know, is that for long years, no one took a final decision to make those arrays indestructible yet Cool - amazing administration and development if I may add Smile lol

Thank you for your input Smile

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Karlotta - 05-17-2020

Making the defense platforms indestructible wouldn't fix the bug I described. I think it's more a matter of not being able to fix the bug than not wanting to. I guess you could learn flhook and try to find a fix too.

EDIT: I think the bug can temporarily be fixed by repositioning the defense platforms at a time when the bug occurs. Not sure tho. You could make experiments and try.

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Xenon - 05-17-2020

(05-17-2020, 04:40 PM)Karlotta Wrote: Making the defense platforms indestructible wouldn't fix the bug I described. I think it's more a matter of not being able to fix the bug than not wanting to. I guess you could learn flhook and try to find a fix too.

EDIT: I think the bug can temporarily be fixed by repositioning the defense platforms at a time when the bug occurs. Not sure tho. You could make experiments and try.

The defense arrays can be set indestructible from the FLhook mate
It's not a matter of not knowing how to do it Wink - It's another issue and it's such a shame Smile
Anyway, Thanks for the answers again. This thread has done its aim and can be locked now xD cheers

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Karlotta - 05-17-2020

What I was trying to say, possibly badly, is that the bug I described also occurs when defense platforms arent destroyed.

I also don't subscribe to the idea that bugged defense platforms is what destroys gameplay around pobs. It's more the lack of useful guidelines/regulations/rules of where and how to build them in exchange for more protection from sieges.

RE: POB Questions, Requesting Help Please - Xenon - 05-17-2020

Well said @Karlotta - The issue is not about the bug alone, but about the entire broken rules of POBs and imbalance between building and destruction. As far as I concluded, there is no future for POBs on the discovery GC unfortunately. A small bug is not fixed for years, so how about an entire set of broken rules allowing disturbed minds to go around them and ruin the server? - Trust me, this thread ran its course Smile - POBs are ruined, and fixing them is a hopeless case. Have a good evening Smile