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Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - SlappyTheRoach - 09-26-2023

1st|V.Leer has been sanctioned for:

Quote:2.2 - Attacking others without roleplaying first is not allowed. Players must be given reasonable time to react to hostilities.

3.1 - Players are considered to be ''PVP Dead'' if they die during a PVP encounter or dock while hostile combatants are within docking message range of other players.

Consequences:

Immediately engaging does not give the receiver any time to react. Seeing as this has happened a few times now, so time off may help reflect your actions. 7 days off.






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RE: Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - Czechmate - 09-26-2023

Evidence please, also evidence for all instances of "this has happened a few times now" as I have never been warned or sanctioned for anything related


RE: Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - SlappyTheRoach - 09-26-2023

Evidence sent.


RE: Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - Czechmate - 09-26-2023

Your sanctions evidence shows 11 lines of roleplay prior to engagement.

There is no evidence of 3.1.

There is no evidence of " this has happened a few times now".


RE: Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - Czechmate - 09-26-2023

I have nothing to do with this, there is no evidence of anything in the spoilered part. I did kill myself in another system to spawn in the target's, yes, that's using the player list, I was not in a PvP encounter.

[06.09.2023 19:10:17] LNS-Ship: wolf DISENGAGE AND GO
[06.09.2023 19:10:28] Death: Player-ship-2 was put out of action by Player-ship. (Gun). -> I kill the fighter
[06.09.2023 19:10:41] Player-ship.: *laughs*
[06.09.2023 19:10:48] Player-ship.: Another one to have fun with!
[06.09.2023 19:11:03] Player-ship.: He will be so yummy
[06.09.2023 19:11:10] Player-ship.: His screams will be music to my ears
[06.09.2023 19:11:50] Player-ship.: His flesh will be the best i will have ever had
[06.09.2023 19:12:23] 1st|V.Leer: This is Blake Wayne Van Leer, Admiral of the First Armada, sector E-7 is under my protection
[06.09.2023 19:12:25] 1st|V.Leer: I am powering up weapons, Player-ship. surrender or perish
[06.09.2023 19:12:41] 1st|V.Leer: Houston, stand down I got this

[06.09.2023 19:12:51] LNS-Ship: Standing down
[06.09.2023 19:12:52] Player-ship.: Like you had your friend ?

The fight starts, we fire multiple CDs at him but he CMs and runs - but the encounter continues


[06.09.2023 19:12:54] 1st|V.Leer: he will siomply run frommy might
[06.09.2023 19:13:07] Player-ship.: He will be so yummy
[06.09.2023 19:13:10] Player-ship.: Soo goooooood
[06.09.2023 19:13:41] 1st|V.Leer: another runner, what a surprise
[06.09.2023 19:13:49] Player-ship.: I will slowy turn him
[06.09.2023 19:13:54] Player-ship.: Into my slave
[06.09.2023 19:14:03] Player-ship.: But not before i have some fun with him
[06.09.2023 19:14:16] 1st|V.Leer: We win
[06.09.2023 19:14:19] 1st|V.Leer: let him go

[06.09.2023 19:14:29] Player-ship.: By losing one of your kind
[06.09.2023 19:14:31] 1st|V.Leer: Return to New York, this guy is no threat
[06.09.2023 19:14:33] Player-ship.: I dont see the win in that
[06.09.2023 19:14:44] Player-ship.: Yes leave me be
[06.09.2023 19:14:46] 1st|V.Leer: He seems petrified of my presence, no threat here
[06.09.2023 19:14:48] Player-ship.: I have some torture to do
[06.09.2023 19:14:55] Player-ship.: *laughs*
[06.09.2023 19:14:59] 1st|V.Leer: Big words, no action
[06.09.2023 19:15:07] Player-ship.: I killed one of your kind whils getting shot by 2 warships
[06.09.2023 19:15:16] Player-ship.: And took no damage whils -> here we lose scanner range from eachother

[06.09.2023 19:15:31] 1st|V.Leer: I mean, son, you are running from me, I don't see how you are a threat -> he types in system chat to me, i dont respond and see the GB leaving
the system in chat window


[06.09.2023 19:15:58] Player-ship.: All alone -> i take the lane back to the jump gate and start RPing to him again.
********[06.09.2023 19:16:02] Player-ship.: Now you are mine
[06.09.2023 19:16:09] Player-ship.: No protection f -> He double nova's me whilst standing still and typing. I didnt even manage to finish my sentence.
[06.09.2023 19:16:09] Death: Player-ship. was put out of action by 1st|V.Leer (Missile/Torpedo).
[06.09.2023 19:16:09] Death: 1st|V.Leer suffered a self-administered loadout error (Missile/Torpedo).*************


[06.09.2023 19:17:28] Player-ship.: //Great RP, much fun -> im butt hurt by that interaction so type this in PM to him
[06.09.2023 19:17:44] 1st|Van.Leer: //np, dealing with staff abuse, needed to go -> Like wtf ?


This was all one encounter, we cded the player but he engaged CMs and ran, we continued to roleplay, the evidence you sent is 10 lines of roleplay in total, he came into ME with clear attack intent after we were exchanging roleplay the entire time. I even apologised for using novas because a (inexperienced) staff member took our Cadet/new player to Bastille instead of talking to us. I didn't apologise for attacking him, more than sufficient roleplay was given.

There is 0 evidence of any of the other accusations - it's clear this is a troll sanction where I break no rules that somehow got past staff. The player in question was interacting the whole time, he came back to an already started engagement too - that he doesn't pay attention mid-fight where we roleplayed constantly is up to him. This is my take, unfortunately, my DSace has reset. but as your own evidence shows clear evidence of this not being a sanction I thank you in advance for a pretty easy rectification of this clear mistake.


EDIT: Seems like I am IP banned, that seems like a serious decision. We all know that something like this even if I dropped no lines ( I dropped literally 10) is not a straight 7-day ban, but a sanction. One might even say this decision is pretty, well, heavy

FYI my last sanction was this
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=196280
in February, when I forgot my tagged ship was in space. I was literally never sanctioned or warned for not giving enough time to engage since the accident with a zoner when shooting (also green) Xeno ships in Alberta over 3 years ago on Hellfire Legion Arbiter.

Quote:Seeing as this has happened a few times now
This is wrong. The instance I got warned or sanctioned for insufficient attack time happened one time, three years ago. There was no evidence provided showing otherwise.






RE: Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - Czechmate - 09-26-2023

I want to show you what a mod said publicly on Discord - I assume he voted to get me sanctioned. It is clear they have not read the logs or evidence - I was not part of the interaction at the point I suicide to get to the system, I met no player, didn't talk or see anyone, I simply did it to get to Colorado. I am 1st|V.Leer, not LNS-Ship that was interacting with the player. The chat logs prove this.

Quote:3.1 - Players are considered to be ''PVP Dead'' if they die during a PVP encounter or dock while hostile combatants are within docking message range of other players.
I was not in a PvP encounter at that point. I would appreciate that before voting to get me banned for 7 days for a simple attack line violation (for which I haven't been sanctioned for 3 years) staff members at least read the provided evidence. The player that reported me didn't even claim that in the first place, they claimed metagaming, as in using players list.



RE: Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - Czechmate - 10-03-2023

Hello, 7 days are up, I will continue to play by the server rules, please restore my access to the server, thank you very much!


RE: Player Sanctioned: 1st|V.Leer - Connor - 10-03-2023

Unbanned