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Mini Razor - Hull Missing - ophidian - 05-13-2009
Alright, for almost a month now, I am trying this and now almost getting convinced. Whenever I fly with my Order Bastet and whenever I battle with a NPC or a player, when I fire the mini razor, it takes down shields but when I EXACTLY fire on the same spot after shields, it does not cause any damage, simply passes through.
Is it me, since I am fairly ok with razoring, or is there a hitbox problem? Today this happened while we were training with Order|Nightfire again and I decided to bring it up here.
PS: I believe the razoring in 4.84 didn't do such a thing, if I remember correctly.
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - Weedalot - 05-13-2009
' Wrote:Alright, for almost a month now, I am trying this and now almost getting convinced. Whenever I fly with my Order Bastet and whenever I battle with a NPC or a player, when I fire the mini razor, it takes down shields but when I EXACTLY fire on the same spot after shields, it does not cause any damage, simply passes through.i didn't notice anything being wrong with razors i can take my order char out and let you razor it.. i believe what is happening while you razor the npc or the player his shields come up just the second you razor the second time and it looks like nothing happened
Is it me, since I am fairly ok with razoring, or is there a hitbox problem? Today this happened while we were training with Order|Nightfire again and I decided to bring it up here.
PS: I believe the razoring in 4.84 didn't do such a thing, if I remember correctly.
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - ophidian - 05-13-2009
But when the shields come up, there is a sound warning that you can hear, also the graphical bar shows it. And the odds of this happening too much to me is kinda slim I guess.
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - darthbeck - 05-13-2009
the mini works fine against corsair and gaian NPC's.
what NPC's were you razering?
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - swift - 05-13-2009
Let me ask something..
Are there two separate hitboxes for each ship, one for shield, and one for hull?
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - teschy - 05-13-2009
' Wrote:Let me ask something..
Are there two separate hitboxes for each ship, one for shield, and one for hull?
Yes, shield represents a sphere around the ship, whilst the hull hitbox replicates roughly the shapes of the ship.
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - frozen - 05-13-2009
' Wrote:Yes, shield represents a sphere around the ship, whilst the hull hitbox replicates roughly the shapes of the ship.
this is only for ships classified by the game as "Fighters". "Frieghters" use the hitbox for bot hull and shield, instead of the bubble for shield.
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - Zeb Harley - 05-13-2009
I've had the problem, too. That happens to me with Purple Goddesses and with the SNAC (but with this one only with NPCs). The shields are taken out nicely but the following shots all seem to do no damage although one can see the little white pentagons of successfull hits. The SNAC-hit even does the blue corona-thing.
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - Muleo - 05-13-2009
' Wrote:The shields are taken out nicely but the following shots all seem to do no damage although one can see the little white pentagons of successfull hits.The 'little white pentagons' only appear when hitting shield, you are hitting the shield.
Mini Razor - Hull Missing - Leadcrows - 05-13-2009
I am well aware of that problem you described.
This also happens in pvp with ALL Guns.
With usual guns you do not realize it if one of your many shots per second did not cause any damage at all.
With the Mini-Razor and with the SNAC you realize it in the first place, because it is a ''one time'' projectile.
SNAC: Your enemy has no shield and you hit, you see the explosive animation but nothing happens, even two times in a row.
Mini-Razor: You clearly see that you hit your enemy, the projectile goes right into the middle of the hull but no damage caused.
There are three establishments for that to happen:
Your projectile hit one of your opponents Gun/ML/CD, all the damage is caused to that gun (if even) and there is no hull damage.
The shield of your opponent luckily regenerated in same milisecond and there is no sound.
Lag, you must realize that such slow projectiles require a lot of time to hit, in that amount of time there can be a lot of mess caused.