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ID-Based Cargo Discounts - Sprolf - 06-11-2009
Seeing the ALG thread brought to mind a discussion I had a Skype a while ago.
Well, I'm also in the revolutionary posting mood today, so...
Anyways. Skype.
I came up with an interesting idea in that conversation.
There's all sorts of "throwaway" commodities out there that no one ever ships.
Food, Water, Oxygen, (wait, I'm seeing a problem here) scrap metal, basic alloy, hull panels, et cetera.
There's more, I'm just giving a general idea here.
Some factions have to ships these things (and indeed, most do) to stay in RP.
But they don't really make a lot of money, do they?
To actually make a profit with a non-freelance trader, one has to ship goods one isn't really supposed to ship, or one has to ship low-paying goods.
In some cases this doesn't apply.
But many factions suffer from this.
My idea is quite simple enough.
Would it be possible for certain IDs to make certain cargoes take up less space, in the same way that it affects the amount you can mine? (Maybe this is possible with ships, too... that could solve the liner problem with human cargo and nonhuman cargo. Give them 500 space and make people take up .25 space on a liner or something.)
If so, we could make each ID able to ship more of a substance that relates to its RP, and thus give it a profitable traderoute.
Zoners could get food, water, and oxygen space discounts.
ALG could get *major* scrap and toxic waste, and so on.
PFI could get large space discounts on terraforming gasses and maybe smaller ones on silver or organisms.
Cryer could get pharmaceutical discounts.
IMG could get mining machinery space discounts.
OSC could get passenger discounts!
Ageira could get a small Gate/Lane Parts space discount.
Mollies could get some gold space reductions!!!
Et cetera.
Some commodities like food, water, and oxygen might just get a general discount, for everyone.
This would take a lot of work and balancing, yes.
Maybe even another overhaul of the system.
But, in the long run... it would open up the chance for in-RP traderoutes to be as profitable as Counterfeit Software or Nukes and Tobacco.
It would eliminate the "highest paying item" route and give a chance for paying routes that make sense.
No longer would one route reign supreme.
No longer would we have to have ridiculously weird routes to make money.
Finally, Ventana could make some good cash shipping toxic waste.
Junkers could make money on mining scrap!
It would give each faction a unique chance to make money, in RP.
Tell me what you think.
I hope this is possible, at least.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - jammi - 06-11-2009
I'll back this completely. Bowex should get a reward for shipping military goods to the BAF and BPA. It's part of it's purpose to supply the military and government.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - Montezuma/Kukulcan - 06-11-2009
I am with Jammi, this is a great idea, bringing food to crete may be great RP, but it pays so little, many people are not even considering it and then wonder why they get asked to drop their cargo and pick up artefacts. Imo this will bring some much needed RP to trading.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - Sprolf - 06-11-2009
Corsairs could get food bonuses, I suppose.
That would be a great idea, not just Zoners.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - tazuras - 06-11-2009
I would love to see something like this. This seems like a decent solution, but would require an extensive overview of the trade system, of course, any modification to do this would require it. But yeah, I'd like to see something to get more people shipping oxygen, water, etc. and this may be the best solution I have seen so far.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - ryeguy146 - 06-11-2009
I have no idea why this wasn't considered before. EXCELLENT idea, Sprolf. It would tempt my freelance pilot to join a company, I'll tell you that.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - CCI45-px/Probe149 - 06-11-2009
*looks out for Cannon*
Now let's see what he says if he's willingly to implement such a thing.
If yes, well, good idea.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - Saigo.Watanabe - 06-11-2009
great idea, and im sure it can be done, bearing in mind what cannon did to mining... however cannon may or may not have the time or the energy to do such a thing- only he can answer if its too much work, he is THE expert after all.
Edit: oops! i forgot to add Xoria to the people who would have to answer that as he designed 4.85's economy and an application like this would need a economy refurbish, no doubt.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - Jokoro - 06-11-2009
This is my first post on the Discovery forums, though I've wandered these threads quite awhile. I read your suggestions for Alaska just a moment ago, Sprolf, and was impressed. After reading these ideas about actually making roleplay trading profitable, I decided it was time to speak up and throw my two cents in. We need more players like you who put valuable time and energy into improving the game.
I'm afraid I don't know enough about the mechanics of the game to comment on what would work best for implementing your ideas, but I believe those that do should definitely take a look at what you are saying here. Keep up the good work, and I'll starting thinking of some ideas of my own.
ID-Based Cargo Discounts - swift - 06-11-2009
I fully support this idea, as well as most of Sam's ideas I've encountered so far.
Good work, and thanks for thinking hard on how to improve the state of the server, Sam. Keep it going.