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New Berlin Unprotected! - OsoRojo - 01-16-2007
New Berlin Unprotected!
RM unable to police own backyard
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by Hendrik von Clausen
Vogtland, Dresden 1.16.2007
According to Red Hessian Congressional sources the supposed "elite" RM is unable to provide needed security for their own homeworld. Proof of such claims come from combat footage provided by the H.S. Rancor, who pursued three vessels after loyalties were announced by the fighter Ang_BOB, who stated, "Im Join Rheinland militari."
The H.S. Rancor engaged the fighter NIK near the Berlin to Dresden jump gate causing major damage, but it escaped in the nearby asteroid field. However, on a good note, the freighter Planet-Express was intercepted in New Berlin orbit and was immediately vaporized by the H.S. Rancor.
Such actions show how inept the complacent and corrupt Kleptocracy has become. They are unwilling or unable to protect their shipping lanes. The Red Hessian Congress has ordered the H.S. Rancor to increase pressure upon such traffic to force a change in the Rheinland repressive regime. In addition, the Congress has given Captain~OsoRojo full powers to pursue cooperation with unaligned organizations to bring more force upon the Kleptocracy.
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New Berlin Unprotected! - Wolfpack98 - 01-16-2007
*rolls eyes*
You guys pick the times when *NO* RM Member are on and post something like this? Now I'm starting to understand how Firebird feels when people attack Cambridge.
Next time, pick a time when we do have RM members on *THEN* attack.
New Berlin Unprotected! - OsoRojo - 01-16-2007
Have, and I'am doing this to force them to respond to me. Have been on at many times, and only faced BS Bismark so far, he switched from a lvl 64 to 73, assumed from trader to BS, it was an impressive vessel met at BS Straubreg station. Forced to withdraw after 2-5 minutes.
My other posts have stated previous actions (times, dates, locations). If they have been viewed, such misplaced pronouncements would not be needed.
Sincerely,
OsoRojo
New Berlin Unprotected! - Virus - 01-16-2007
' Wrote:Have, and I'am doing this to force them to respond to me. Have been on at many times, and only faced BS Bismark so far, he switched from a lvl 64 to 73, assumed from trader to BS, it was an impressive vessel met at BS Straubreg station. Forced to withdraw after 2-5 minutes.
My other posts have stated previous actions (times, dates, locations). If they have been viewed, such misplaced pronouncements would not be needed.
Sincerely,
OsoRojo
So you know, unless they are carrying the [RM] tag, they ARE NOT part of the Rheinland Military, and as such, none of their actions should reflect us in anyway.
Now, I have to say... You ARE saying here that we are incompetent. However, you CANNOT say that when there are NO RM people on. I would go on right now and show you how quickly your... Whatever ship it is, can be destroyed, but, alas, I cannot. Krieg will have to do that.
ALSO... Try not to post about assaults on "Rheinland ships" if they are NPC's, or not [RM] tagged. We all are very, very aware that the Rheinland battleship patrols are almost pointless to have (though not completely), and can be taken out with a well flown fighter, gunboat.. Or anything for that matter. Someone may read it wrong and thing "God, RM suck!" when, in fact, we don't.
False propaganda is *NOT* taken well, here. I, for one, do not take kindly to LIES. All this does is start flame wars.
I think Kane's "rant switch" has changed owners... RANT MODE: OFF.
EDIT: ONE THREAD STATING YOU "WON" IS ENOUGH. PLEASE TRY NOT TO POST IT TWICE. POSTING THE SAME THING TWICE IS SPAM IN MY EYES.
New Berlin Unprotected! - Zukeenee - 01-16-2007
Hey hey hey... please don't start another one of these arguements...
As you can see, OsoRojo posted this in the "Roleplay" section. It is his character that is criticizing RM, not OsoRojo himself. It's bound to make a few of you Rheinland guys angry, but that's what it's supposed to do. It's Red Hessian propaganda, not meant to be an insult to RM. Well, not entirely, anyway.
It's not much different from Ember's situation. He attacked some guys, killed them, and made an in-character post about it. Granted, the key difference here is the lack of anyone around to defend the place. Even though the SF weren't present for Ember's attack, BSG and that SiN Tech guy were. The H.S. Rancor, however, didn't do anything quite as serious as MOX-bomb Planet New Berlin. He just killed a few guys around Rheinland and generally disrupted stuff, as most pirates do anyway.
As for trying to argue with him, in character or out of it, what's the point? He's a Hessian. You don't argue with them, you shoot them. He did what Hessians do, and now RM should come back with a good RP counter-attack. Yes, he's attacking the Rheinland Military with his words. But would the Rheinland Military make a bunch of posts saying how unfair he's being? Hell no! The Rheinland Military would come back in force! Defend their home, and maybe even actively go out after the pirates (hey, there's enough pirate scum in Rheinland these days... maybe you guys should make some sort of campaign?;)). It should be understood that real-life occurances often affect this kind of roleplay. The RM may not always be around to keep Rheinland in order. But you've got to work around that! Be creative. Make some sort of 24/7 New Berlin Automated Defense System if you have to. You can't always give the excuse that "I couldn't get on at that time." It's perfectly reasonable, but just because you're gone doesn't mean that your character is, too.
So, yeah. That's what I have to say. Now maybe this thread can get into some real roleplay, as it was intended to be. Take up arms, forces of the Hodge!
New Berlin Unprotected! - OsoRojo - 01-17-2007
OOC: My actions being misconstrued
by OsoRojo
1.16.2007
My intention has been to eilicit a RP reaction from the RM along the storyline highlighted in many of the infocards throughout Rheinland space. So far, however, I have received little and I am just attemnpting to place pressure upon the players to respond in their character persona. Sadly, I have only received, possibly, an implication of cowardice from Wolfpack98,
"*rolls eyes*
You guys pick the times when *NO* RM Member are on and post something like this? Now I'm starting to understand how Firebird feels when people attack Cambridge.
Next time, pick a time when we do have RM members on *THEN* attack."
and now an infered insult from me taken by Virus,
"Now, I have to say... You ARE saying here that we are incompetent. However, you CANNOT say that when there are NO RM people on. I would go on right now and show you how quickly your... Whatever ship it is, can be destroyed, but, alas, I cannot. Krieg will have to do that."
Throughout my post's, if either would take the time to read, all would see I am just trying to play a more interesting RP game. I have never tried to call into question anyone's character or honor personally, I have only acted as my character should. In addition, I am also trying to give creditbility to the Red Hessian's who were once politically motivated and not financially.
Sincerely,
OsoRojo
P.S. My thanks to Zukeenee who seems to understand compeletly,
"As you can see, OsoRojo posted this in the "Roleplay" section. It is his character that is criticizing RM, not OsoRojo himself. It's bound to make a few of you Rheinland guys angry, but that's what it's supposed to do. It's Red Hessian propaganda, not meant to be an insult to RM. Well, not entirely, anyway."
P.S.S. I have engaged RM members. Refer to screenie and other posts- I withdrew, impressive vessel
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New Berlin Unprotected! - TankTarget - 01-17-2007
Yeah, Oso is in full RP as a RED HESSIAN....Why wouldn't he insult the Rm for not being there? It's his job as a Hessian to use propoganda and taunts to win over his foes. Why is it when someone says something everyone gets pissed?
Calm down, take a chill pill guys. Think, would a pirate wait for the military to attack? The answer is no, he is in full Rp and is being persecuted and insulted for RPing by the big people who get mad when no one RPs so. Now is not the time for hipocracy...
New Berlin Unprotected! - pchwang - 01-17-2007
This is ridiculous. I see people here who try to sponsor RP dumping on the very institution that they attempted to create.
I hope that this will be the last post that is OOC on this thread. And also, REMEMBER that it is just a game...
New Berlin Unprotected! - OsoRojo - 01-17-2007
My thanks for everyone's comments both pro and con.
I shall return to my original series of posts under "Rheinland Beware" Only did this last one to get attention. My intentions have been outstripped by reality, and for those offended my apologies, such reactions were unanticipated and unintended.
I hope those of RM will respond as their personas discribe and we can meet upon the field of battle. I am in the process of attaining allies to challenge their hold upon Rheinland space.
I only wish to enjoy this wonderful universe created here on Discovery. My thanks to all, and I hope to see all of you upon the lanes. Even the RM.
Sincerely,
OsoRojo
New Berlin Unprotected! - Virus - 01-17-2007
Alright... This is how I look at propaganda... It always hurts. Keep it to a minimum, ok? I just don't like going on the forums and seeing a whole thread that *seems* to make my entire faction look like a bunch of pathetic @$$3$.
I apologize if I went over the top, here. Just seemed a bit too much to me to literally say "RM unable to police its own backyard" when we cannot be online all the time, though our characters *would be there, if possible.* For example, the Alzette is in permanent orbit of New Berlin, Damon constantly moves through the New Berlin system, station to station, etc., etc., and RP posts like this should not be made unless there is proof we cannot defend our "own backyard." For example, you destroying (or RP-wise, disabling), the Alzette. That I would have absolutely NO trouble with (unless you were hacking/modding/whatever), since you won fair and square. Hell, you could even claim the destruction of any RM NPC's you killed, too.
Just... My thoughts, feelings, opinions.
PS... Tank target's signature is GINORMOGANTUOUS!