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Civilian/Corporation escorts - tansytansey - 10-28-2009
Update: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPTdYOrF4O4
Okay, just because I'm not around doesn't mean I haven't forgotten about you guys. In fact, I have a lot more time now to do productive stuff like building models for Disco. There was a thread a while back where I said I'd make a few reskinned Eagles for the House Corporations to use, I went a bit further with it and made these. They're meant to be mostly for the much-unloved house corporations to use as escorts as alternatives to military ships. They also offer a ship for those small-time revolutionary groups like Xenos, Gaians etc. to use without worrying about making them entire exclusive ship lines and stuff. They're a multi-purpose ship, really.
![[Image: 6581bertycondor.png]](http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6581bertycondor.png)
Quote:CTL -6000 "Condor" Liberty-Civilian Very Heavy Fighter
The CTL-6000 was originally developed by Universal Shipping in collaboration with Deep Space engineering as an escort vessel due to the increase of pirate activity in Liberty and the independent worlds. The blue-prints were brought out by Ageria Technologies, who began to mass-produce the ship as a Liberty-Civilian vessel. However, during mass production several of these ships have fallen into the hands of Libertys many activists, anarchists and Xenos, who see the ship as a patriotic symbol to their House.
![[Image: bretonianharrier.png]](http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5084/bretonianharrier.png)
Quote:CTB -6000 "Harrier" Bretonian-Civilian Very Heavy Fighter
Following in the foot-steps of the Condor, the CTB-6000 was developed by the BMM as a Bretonian-Civilian vessel and marketed towards the general public as an exploration vessel. The ship quite popular and widely used as an escort ship by Bretonias many corporations, offering a lighter alternative to the B-907A at the cost of some armour and fire power. Unfortunately many of these ships have fallen into the hands of Gaian terrorists.
![[Image: kusarinightjar.png]](http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3931/kusarinightjar.png)
Quote:CTK -6000 "Nightjar" Kusari-Civilian Very Heavy Fighter
The CTK-6000 offers a slightly heavier alternative to the Kusari J shipline, sacrificing some of its speed and size for more armour and fire power. Kishiro designed the CTK as a blend of Civilian and Kusari technology, and the result was a ship both versatile and graceful on the battlefield, and has become a popular ship for Kusari Corporate escorts and some of Kusaris underground organisations. However the Kusari Naval Forces and Blood Dragons have both opted to stay with their more traditional vessels.
![[Image: rhienlandshrike.png]](http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8787/rhienlandshrike.png)
Quote:CTR -6000 "Shrike" Rhienland-Civilian Very Heavy Fighter
The CTR-6000 is a brutal ship designed by Daumann to escort Rhienlands supply convoys deep into enemy territory. The Shrike is known as The Butcher by its enemies for the brutal grace on the battlefield that this masterfully engineered ship delivers. Although it is a cheaper alternative to the 90-ARKM-N9, the CTR-6000 is not a popular choice for the Rhienland Military and is more commonly seen in the hands of corporate escorts and the occasional pirate.
There's still a few technical issues with the models that I'm working out. They're having a model-swapping issue that's got me stumped, so I'm practically remaking the ships again to try and fix it. The rear wings on the Kusari ship appear purple in-game, the render doesn't show it's true colours. The Rhienland one could do with a good re-texture as well, I got really lazy with it because Rhienland textures are tricky to work with.
The most bizzare problem I've come across with these ships is the Kusari ship swapping models with the Gallic Tradelane model I made, it's not fun flying as a tradelane with no engine, since you can't see anything or go any where xD
Any way, now I'll be off, have fun arguing and stuff about these ships. I miss you, Disco!
Civilian/Corporation escorts - Thexare - 10-28-2009
<strike>The texturing on the Kusari variant looks very bland. I can tell it's textured well, but it's largely just shades of tan. Eh. Given the source material, there's not a whole lot you can do, but maybe the purple from the wings on the fighters could be worked in to spice it up better?</strike>
(Edit: strikethrough applied since I re-read your post and noticed the bit at the end. Could you add a picture of it in-game so we can see what it looks like?)
The Rheinland one looks dull, too, but it fits the general style of Rheinland that way, so that's not so bad.
I love the Bretonian one, though, and if it was added I'd want one for my Buccaneer.
Civilian/Corporation escorts - Ceoran - 10-28-2009
Quote: CTK -6000 "Nightjar" Kusari-Civilian Very Heavy Fighter
The CTK-6000 offers a slightly heavier alternative to the Kusari J shipline, sacrificing some of its speed and size for more armour and fire power. Kishiro designed the CTK as a blend of Civilian and Kusari technology, and the result was a ship both versatile and graceful on the battlefield, and has become a popular ship for Kusari Corporate escorts and some of Kusaris underground organisations. However the Kusari Naval Forces and Blood Dragons have both opted to stay with their more traditional vessels.
Bad idea to mention the developer on a Kusari ship. If it stated Kishiro, Samura won't use it and the other way round. Sell it at a Kishiro base to show it's their invention, but please leave it out of the infocard. It has been dropped from all the Kusari transport infocards and I think it was a very good idea to do so.
Just my two cents
Civilian/Corporation escorts - 11of10 - 10-28-2009
Edit a bit their stats, that is, leave the Libertonian one as a default, Kusari with improved agility and less armor, Bretonian with heavy armor and heavy, and Rheinland something like that as well.
My preferred model is the Rheinland one, but to me, they all seem strange. Guess I've just gotten used to the Vanilla Eagle.
However, the Idea is good definitely. A commercial space fighter, modified by local companies. Different engine glow as well, right?
Civilian/Corporation escorts - schlurbi - 10-28-2009
Good to see you posting Ashes.
I totally love the Rheinland Escort, though a namechange would be nice. Something German. Metzger (engl. Butcher) would do it I think.
The Bretonian one looks epic. The best of those four Ships.
Last but not least: The condor has ugly Wings.
Civilian/Corporation escorts - 11of10 - 10-28-2009
About the Bretonian one... the red parts of the ship are supposed to be the armor. Did you intentionally make the texture the way it is?
Civilian/Corporation escorts - reavengitair - 10-28-2009
The condor seems quite a weird mix.
The kusari one could have the wings replaced with a few of the curved "blades" on the Kusari Battleship, just a suggestion.
Seeing as Samura makes everything, it would be RP sense for Kishiro to probably make and design this ship.
Civilian/Corporation escorts - Markus_Janus - 10-28-2009
Well actually Samura does not make everything, the ships do not have their makers listed on the info cards and we can assume that the ships are made by both companies.
All we know is that Samura manufactures 70% of the transports and freighters in Kusari, not which ones.
Civilian/Corporation escorts - Exsiled_one - 10-28-2009
Yeah, actually what would be the issue of Kishiro making the ship?
You can freely mention manufacturer since Samura and Kishiro agree =)
Also, I don't know how would they work, I mean...
Sure, escorts are awesome, but they should be human, involving more interaction with others. Not digging yourself down in trenches of npc and lonelyness.
We all say how lone traders should have escorts. to make those escorts good, you have to make them at least bit strong. So imagine convoy of 6 - 7 traders each with their own escorts.. First lag, second, unfair.
Yes, I know, it's hard to see a convoy of 6. But let's rather work on getting people to convoy instead of making the game easy for solo play.
besides this, ships look awesome =)
Civilian/Corporation escorts - Drake - 10-28-2009
Not all Bretonian ships are heavy and slow, really that's only the Gunboat and VHF. The Hussar is a quite good LF, and the Dunkirk Battleship is one of the smallest, lightest battleships available. Especially since the tail on that Harrier model is taken from the Hussar, I don't see any reason to make it slower and tougher than a regular Eagle.
Really, do the stats for any of them really need to be different than the regular Eagle? You know it'll end up with some considered inferior to the Eagle and therefor under-used.