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Admin Notice: Player Jailed - Athenian - 01-01-2010
Quote:6.2 Ship and equipment used must match tag and ID as closely as possible.
All characters using mismatched ID/Ship/Weapon combinations must possess either an Admin granted Terrorist ID or a Special Operative ID.
6.6 Aggressors are not allowed to destroy a trade vessel prior to issuing a demand and allowing sufficient time to respond. Demands may be cargo, credits or an RP demand, such as leaving the system. "Halt" is not a demand.
6.10 Player reputation and conduct must match player actions. For instance a player may not dock on a base belonging to the persons whom they are attacking or being attacked by.
Bounty notice
All bounties must be posted on the forum. If you attack another player to claim a bounty and the bounty is not posted on the forum, you are open to a PvP abuse sanction.
Consequences:
Flying a Freelancer ID'd Orca gunboat and killing traders when offered money by Outcasts is not acceptable.
If you checked you would see that the only forum bounty allowing any actions against smugglers is by the LPI and expressly forbids using a gunboat.
Quote:250,000 credits for the successful interdiction of any smugglers, either by forcing them to drop or destroying. This includes Rheinland trade ships (Republican, Daumann, Kruger, ALG) Force them to drop their cargo and leave Liberty.!
Requirements: Must be a Bounty Hunter, Freelancer, or Mercenary, must fly a fighter-class or bomber-class ship
You have been jailed in Bastille until you post here and we figure out what to do with your ship, which has been stripped of guns, armour and credits.
Admin Link to Report
COMPLETE SERVER RULES
BEFORE YOU POST
If you post in this sanction and are not directly involved or a leader of the accused person's faction be advised that you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions up to a ban.
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - Moneybags - 01-01-2010
Ummm... What?
1. It's an semi lawful freelancer. He doesn't just help pirates. If a lawful pays him, he'll do it.
2. He also didn't warn me that the freelancer ID/ Orca thing wasn't allowed. He said he 'thought' it wasn't. I got no prior warning after that.
3. He never let me finish. I said unlawful at first, but the more I looked at it, I saw that it was a semi-lawful Freelancer. He left before heeven let me finish.
4. The artifact guy. As my char is semi, the unlawful side is sided with the outcasts. So it's logical for my guy to go after him, correct?
I'm more upseat that I barly taked to about any of this before action was taken. I know there is a message that says to talk to the person first, and yeah, he talked to me, but he rule lawyered, and wouldn't let me defend myself hardly.
Oh yes, and 6.6! What do you mean! I said to the guy that I didn't like artifact traders, and that I would give him a 5 second head start. That is considered Roleplay last time I checked. The outcast payment went along with it, I was going to kill the guy before the outcast even said anything. I wasn't talked to about this at all either.
Oh yeah, and another thing. I was killed with no engagment notice 4 times last night. And they didn't know, so I let them off with a warning. They killed me. I did nothing to the person I know filed this report.
I would like to see the report if I can. I already know who did it. If I'm wrong, then that person didn't talk to me at all.
K, I'm done ranting now.
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - ryoken - 01-01-2010
You are corret, it was i WRECKER that reported you,and not sure,but 2 other LNS char's planned to do the same. I did not rule lawyer you,i just tried to ask WHY? you had that combo without a special RP,and if you knew it was wrong. You were not getting it, so i took it here for the admin's to rule on. Simple as that.
My main point to u was, if you ever worked with the outcast's? NO! BH would sell you that ship. You should not be friendly with both outcast's,and BH's(unlawful/lawful)
PS.Sorry if a C or 2 is missing, my keyboaurd acting up.
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - Moneybags - 01-01-2010
Well you know, I didn't get much of my voice in. You said you would 'ask', not 'report'. They are two compleatly different things. You didn't even seem to know for sure yourself. I didn't know either. No one told me dead to the point that they we're 100% sure. If they did, I would have change my ship.
You didn't give me enough notice, thats the point. You said "thought", so I was going to let you go ahead and ask first. Did I think you would go and report? No, and I didn't think you would really make it go to that extent either.
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - ryoken - 01-01-2010
Well mate, Reporting is asking. If i was wrong?(and pretty sure i was not) no sanction. As to the Extent? that is up to admin's not I.I just posted what i thought was wrong,and they do the rest.
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - Moneybags - 01-01-2010
We're going in circles here.
Here is what it boils down to: You didn't know for sure. You said you would ask. I didn't know. Next thing I know, I wind up in Bastille.
That isn't fair for me at all. I'm expecting you to give me an answer when you 'asked' the Admins, and I get jailed.
Just try putting you're self in my shoes for a minute. I didn't think I could get in trouble for something I wasn't sure was wrong.
I always PM someone if I'm not sure. Refering back to the ingame message; "Reporting is a last resort."
I guess that does apply anymore.
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - Athenian - 01-01-2010
Screenshots sent with evidence.
A 5-second start isn't roleplaying - it's a countdown to killing another player. You can't just set yourself up in a lawful ship as a self-appointed policeman and still be "semi-lawful" and consort with Outcasts.
Maybe the Vigilante ID would suit you better..the only drawback being you would have to down smugglers in ships nowhere near as capable as a gunboat:
Quote:Freelancer ID
Pilot carrying this ID is a Freelancer, who:
* Can trade and escort traders
* Can hunt pirates, terrorists and lawfuls across Sirius
* Can fulfill lawful and unlawful bounty contracts
* Cannot pirate
* Cannot use any transports with more than 3,600 cargo
Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats
Carrying unmounted IDs in your ship, as well as not equipping an ID, is a serious crime.
Quote:Vigilante ID (New ID)
Pilot carrying this ID is a Vigilante, who:
* Can demand any non-house police or non-house military ships to drop any contraband
* Can hunt pirates and terrorists anywhere in Sirius except for the Omicron and Omega systems
* Can only use the Startracker, Starblazer, Griffin, Hawk, Falcon, Eagle or Roc Mk II
* Cannot use ANY unlawful equipment or weapons (including Nomad weapons)
* Cannot ally with anyone except other Vigilantes
* Cannot attack any lawful police or lawful military except in self defense
* Cannot demand credits
* Cannot trade or escort traders
* Cannot fulfill bounty contracts
* Can only land on Bounty Hunter, Zoner, IMG, Neutral, and Freelancer bases
Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers
Carrying unmounted IDs in your ship, as well as not equipping an ID, is a serious crime. Vigilantes are often considered to be unlawful and may be engaged by the lawful house police and house military. Players using the Vigilante ID MUST have a lawful tag and their equipment and area of operation must also reflect their tag.
You might let me know what you'd like to do with this character and we'll arrange to have it beamed out of jail and set up in a manner more suitable for the roleplay path you intend.
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - Moneybags - 01-01-2010
Yes, but there was more that he didn't Screen. I said before that; "Artifacts!" And other things before he docked. I Did more than counting, I said; 'You we're trading Artifacts.' 'I Don't like that.' 'I'll give you a 5 second head start'
There we're other witnesses, Don Starkiller (Cartel guy), he saw that part. I don't know his fourm name, but you can ask him.
Anyways, if you'll let me have my ship back, I'll change it. I just want to play, and now that I know I can't have that ship, I can go get a different one.
EDIT: Or, if possable, maybe I can do a SRP request
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - ryoken - 01-01-2010
In my post, i did state the Rhino docked with artifact's.You need to kill them with contraband,not after they dock. The fact the Rhino was not smart enough to stay docked,does not mean he should die from a GB like that,with only a count down.
I am sure if you talk nice to admin's,they will help you change your setup,and let you out of jail.
As for how i would feel getting santioned? Been there done that,and was 500mil more costly,for a lesser reason.(back in 4.84 much more harsh in punishment) I got booted in a BS while fighting,and came back 30 sec's later to explain,and still got nerfed,and sent to Jail. What you got here is minor,so i would be nice,and chat with staff. Be glad Hoodlum did not get you.He can be far more harsh if in a nasty mood.(no offence hoodlum)
Admin Notice: Player Jailed - Athenian - 01-01-2010
The ship has been beamed to the Barrier Gate Station, stripped of armour, guns and credits. Decide what you're doing and do it as soon as you can. What happens next is your choice. Your reputation in Liberty has been adjusted to reflect your status as a known murderer.