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When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - ryoken - 07-05-2007

OK on 3 occasions now in THETA and in O-49 i have had a zoner ID'd and TAGGED ship show up and fire on me for killing NPC's saying that is not allowed in "OUR SYSTEMS" no hostility is allowed.What's up with that?
A hostile npc group "say 8 corsair titan knock's my GB out of cruise and open fires on me i can't shoot back?
THAT IS UTTER BS, AND i don't remember zoner's OWNING any system's. Maybe i am in the wrong here let me know my ship was BH tagged and ID'd also an ally of zoner's i thought, or atleast friendly since all their bases give out BH mission's. If this keeps up i will consider zoner's hostile not neutral and KOS.
Reply's on this people PLS.


When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - Virus - 07-05-2007

Zoners do own Theta, but that does not give the average joe with a Zoner ID the right to kick you out or kill you.


When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - onca - 07-05-2007

Ryoken this doesn't seem right at all. Who were the people who attacked you? If you have screenshots, forward to admins for appropriate action as it sure sounds like violation of RP rules and general PvP whore behaviour.



When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - Denelo - 07-05-2007

' Wrote:Zoners do own Theta, but that does not give the average joe with a Zoner ID the right to kick you out or kill you.

Think he's talking about AW and [~V~]... AW in Theta and [~V~] in O-49


When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - ryoken - 07-06-2007

Think he's talking about AW and [~V~]... AW in Theta and [~V~] in O-49


right on both counts.can they fire without provacation for me killing NPC's?
PC's i would understand but next time they shoot at me without warning they die!!! I am sick of every faction player making rules as they go as to who they will shoot at and for what reason's suit them at the moment.In 1 case an AW guy was allied with a corsair and a hessien.What the frack is that? they hate each other.




When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - Eppy - 07-06-2007

The AW and TAZ can do whatever they want. The Zoners own their own systems, you can't just kill the NPCs. If you come into Alpha and start killing Sabers, You bet we'll shoot at you, as is our RP. We protect our own, as they do.


When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - Malaclypse 666 - 07-06-2007

' Wrote:The AW and TAZ can do whatever they want. The Zoners own their own systems, you can't just kill the NPCs. If you come into Alpha and start killing Sabers, You bet we'll shoot at you, as is our RP. We protect our own, as they do.

Correction, there, Epy. The TAZ don't "own" Omega 49. I suppose if anything, we've been allowed "Squatter's rights", because we provide a little local color and RP in an otherwise remote part of the Sector.

I'm assuming that if Ryoken is also "Stormcrow II", then he's referring to this:

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...5204&st=10#

Now, I don't know where you "live" in Sirius, Ryoken, if indeed you're the gent who came calling; but how would you feel if someone came by unannounced and started shooting up your front yard? If some Corsair ID'd, Corsair tagged player came in and started shooting up the Bounty Hunter NPC's who also frequent our yard, I most probably would have reacted the same way. The TAZ are Zoners, and peaceful; and we like a peaceful neighbor. In fact, we insist on it. If you had been blowing up our Zoner brethren, I would have definitely held the trigger down, and not even bothered to say a word.

I asked you to leave, reasonably nicely, once; and you ignored me. It was only after I removed your shields that you even deigned to talk to me at all. I'm a sociable person by nature.. even garrulous.

Very little of what you said, if any, was "in-character", bud. I would guess you know little to nothing about the TAZ, the Veranda Incognita, or any of its rich history. All you could see were the dollar signs that those 'sairs you were blowing to Thud represented. Read up a bit, and then come whinge at me, eh?

Why don't you just consider it a lesson on sociability and common courtesy when visiting the "homes" of others, and let it go at that.

To quote a famous old chestnut from US resorts and spas: "We don't swim in your toilet, so please don't pee in our pool".

Regards,
Malaclypse



When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - Dab - 07-06-2007

Tell me the name of the AW ship.

Its true AW does not allow hostility Theta, but that is only between players. We allow players to shoot NPCs, and even take missions (only nearby place for BHG to get high-level missions). The only time an AW should stop you from fighting NPCs is if you are attacking Zoner NPCs. Also, AW give you a chance to cease your fighting, saying you have to stop now or we open fire. Again, exception is if your firing on Zoner NPCs or Zoner tagged/IDd ships, where we will open fire on sight.

Again, please tell me the name of the AW, and I will talk to him about this.


When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - Mastery - 07-06-2007

Quote:Came by unannounced and started shooting up your front yard?

Would you shoot him if he announced it?
Or asked for permission?


When did the zoners take over all zoner space? - Malaclypse 666 - 07-06-2007

' Wrote:Would you shoot him if he announced it?
Or asked for permission?


As I said, I can be rather garrulous in-game, and on the forums. I would certainly try to discourage him.

Dab has the right idea, and probably adheres to it as faithfully as anyone on Disco who has to deal with this sort of situation.

Yes, you can get BH missions against the 'sairs from GC, or Lanzarote. And, no, Zoners would not normally involve themselves in the politics or hostilities between conflicting PC or NPC factions, other than to be protective of their own, or in our case, of any peaceful traders in the system also, just as AW does.

It's not always just a matter of rules, Mastery. I invite you to learn a bit about me and the boys down south. We put a lot of effort into our tales, and our RP. Basically I felt that Ryoken/Storm's disdain for that history, and my entreaties, were a "slap in the face".

Ryoken, you could have made a bit of an effort. Just because you're tagged such and such, or following so and so rule or lack thereof, doesn't always mean you're "fitting in" with the overall landscape, shall we say.

If all this is too vague, or too difficult to appreciate; then perhaps it's time that I turned in my chips, and found a few more suns (not bloody Baffin!) to fly into once again.

Cheers,
Mal