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Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - Prysin - 01-19-2010
THIS IS NOT A COMBAT RELATED THREAD
Ok i noticed something that i think is extremely stupid
Liberty Dread
Hull strength 840,000
Max. shield class 10
Cargo space 1,600 units
Nanobots/Batteries 1600/1600
Sarissa
Hull strength 820,000
Max. shield class 10
Cargo space 1,500 units
Nanobots/Batteries 1600/1600
OK first, LN dread has MORE armour AND more cargo, while being way smaller !!!
Im fine with it being smaller and more advanced armour plating, but yet it cannot expect to be smaller, more armour AND more cargo, considering its jsut 70% the size of the Sarissa. Its a bit lame, i think the cargo values should be reversed as its contradictionary considering the smallest is best in almost every way.
PS; Yes i love RP cargo, and Sarissa is meant to be a command central and possibly a "carrier" as it has huge visible docking bay, dunno.
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - Montezuma/Kukulcan - 01-19-2010
Should they ever meet?
If not, does it really matter? The only small BSs the OC should be fighting against are the Zephyr and Osiris.
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - Prysin - 01-19-2010
' Wrote:Should they ever meet?
If not, does it really matter? The only small BSs the OC should be fighting against are the Zephyr and Osiris.
im not talking bout power infact im talking about "logic" vs "size"
30% smaller, and yet more armour and cargo. We all know that armour, powercore size and reinforced gunpositions DO decide the cargo space. Then explain the, less size, more armour, same power, more cargo being reasonable?
and again, i love RP cargo, so thats why it gets so darn annoying
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - gafiaiiu - 01-19-2010
The Outcast battleship appears to be more equiped for offense than defense. Its got three more turrets, presumably meaning it has better coverage for the guns it possesses.
Not sure about how much difference in size there is, but for the same cost, you loose 100 cargo 20k armor and gain three turrets.
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - ... kur nubėgo? - 01-19-2010
If they don't meet each other, why it should care?
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - Prysin - 01-19-2010
it still dont explain the fact that, it has less cargo, let me show you
OSIRIS
Hull strength 700,000
Max. shield class 10
Cargo space 1,400 units
Nanobots/Batteries 1500/1500
Less armour, less size, less cargo, less powercore, same ammount of turrets as LN dread. THAT MEANS, my ship is 30% bigger then LN dread, LN dread is 5 or 10% bigger then Osiris
Also consider the infocard of the sarissa;
Smaller, more agile and capable of complicated battlefield maneuvers, the Sarissa was built upon the need of a comprehensive battle direction platform. Replete with exhaustive communications and projection equipment,
meaning, heavily armed command centre.
now LN dread and Osiris info cards
Osiris;
The Osiris is still used as a strike battleship, heavy hitting and lightly armored it packs a punch that even the Liberty Dreadnought can't match for it's size.
LN Dread:
Built by the Liberty Navy, the Dreadnought class is the most sophisticated and devastating ship of its type.
ok so saying; Osiris is MEANT to be a warship, the LN dread is even more of a warship, the sarissa IS a command centre meant to keep the outcasts alive.
their both smaller, and yet, their combat orientated, sarissa is not.
' Wrote:If they don't meet each other, why it should care?
read then post please?
I said i love RP cargo. and since this ship is meant to be a command centre it should contain more food, cardi, water, spare parts, equipment and all that.
Also im talking size vs cargo, i can start bringing in transports if i have to jsut to prove the size vs cargo thing is illogical.
IM NOT TALKING COMBAT
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - Internity - 01-19-2010
Don't even think about it , forget it DON'T TOUCH the Liberty Dreadnought ! If you come with more useless ideas I`ll skin you alive buster!
Sarissa has visible docking bay and Liberty Dreadnought doesn't ? :lol:man you better go look more at the ship then.
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - Prysin - 01-19-2010
' Wrote:Don't even think about it , forget it DON'T TOUCH the Liberty Dreadnought ! If you come with more useless ideas I`ll skin you alive buster!
Sarissa has visible docking bay and Liberty Dreadnought doesn't ? :lol:man you better go look more at the ship then.
1 - quit the flaming, im a barbaque master when it comes to it
2 - yes i know about THE ONE DOOR UNDERNEATH, i tried to fly my arrow and a startracker inside while someone dropped some pilots for npcs to take.
3 - its 30% SMALLER, and tbh, i cant remember seeing more then 6/30 (Hale's, Epsilion and 4 other indies) LN Dreads with a crew, ive seen some trading though.
so bring your little ember somewere else, i want people to use reason, if you refuse to use reason and logic to give your opinion then please, do not post.
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - farmerman - 01-19-2010
Quote:LN Dread:
Built by the Liberty Navy, the Dreadnought class is the most sophisticated and devastating ship of its type.
Maybe the sophistication partially lies in it being able to have armor just as effective and more cargo space while being smaller?
My theory is that it has to do with the size of the reactor and other power related parts. Maybe the Outcasts' produce a very large powerplant, by volume, and that leaves less room to store stuff?
Size vs Logic (renamed; Liberty Dread vs Outcast Battleship) - Prysin - 01-19-2010
actually if you read the destroyers infocard you will see that the outcast reactor technology is rather super advanced and id say, if their so advanced their probably smaller and more efficient.
id said its just "lazyness" from the devteams side not thinking over it.... well i dont blame them its just a minor detail, butit annoys me that something that is this large;
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has more armour and cargo then somewthing of this size
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so well, jsut stating my opinion as i find it wierd. No matter how much advanced the hull plates is its actually covering for the 30% size reduction (yes, if it was like sarissa in size it would have like 1.1m armour if it had same plating). so 30% smaller but more advanced armour. so, that leaves the higher ammount of magic cargo