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Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - killhappyfool - 02-03-2010
Excluding Gallia, I would like to know officially what the Discovery status of the Trade Lane and Gate Technology is in terms of technological secrecy. Do all the house's posses the technology or is it still Ageira's golden egg? This is important to me both because I continue now and again to see certain RP inconsistencies/disputes and I am planning on building a character who is involved in the R&D department. **no intentions of some sort of "defects to another house selling trade secrets line"**
1.A clear answer would put to rest the constant argument that if Liberty goes to war with House X then all that Ageira has to do is withhold their repair/construction and it would strangle the economy, blah blah blah follow line of Lib has all houses by the proverbial sack.
2.If they do maintain certain trade secrets that allow the Company to keep the hold, what are SOME of the ways that this is done? it would help add depth to a corporation though well known almost without any meat or even really bones to its technical inner workings etc.
3. I am sure there is more things I could point out but consider this the catch all to those.
Now for those of you who don't know, their Gate/Lane Parts info card states: Jump Gate and Trade Lane Parts are exclusively manufactured at the Ageira Technologies facility in the Colorado system and are delivered to individual construction sites as necessary. These components are sealed in scanner-proof, tamper-proof white boxes that can only be opened with complex biometric keys. The boxes are also designed to detonate if opened outside of an authorized facility. Additional security measures are confidential, but Ageira has never failed to recover a missing white box.
However, beyond this info card there isn't a ADMIN/DEV declared statement as far as I have found to clarify this. I would put forth my desire that if this hasn't been discussed, or has been left to stew for the sake of avoiding the many potential headaches and RP Tech theft storylines, that should such a discussion be brought together and that I might be allowed a part of it. *not trying to be selfish but I am amongst a many number of people who have tried over the years to get Ageria going in one form or another and I still hold quite a desire to influence the events of its existence.*
Excuse me if this is a little rough and such, I am currently in the hospital for major surgery and I am all wired up right now. So I am both tired and quite distracted. Thank you.
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - mwerte - 02-03-2010
Well, Gallia did it, means someone else can. Also, I know there's a rumor up Kusari way that says one of the corps is looking at reverse-engineering them. But that might just be a rumor.
Storyline-wise, those are the only two exceptions, and I know the official ageira faction plays it that way.
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - Exsiled_one - 02-03-2010
It's called monopoly and it's awesome.
Btw, you really think Ageira and DSE would actually stop trading with a house if a said house entered a war with liberty? Ha.
Man Liberty is all about the profits.
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - Bobthemanofsteel - 02-03-2010
DSE is a lot more 'in' Liberty, as far as I'm concerned. We're not supposed to go to Rheinland, and our trade with other Houses is quite minimal, being more of a Construction and Mining corporation. DSE trading out of the house is almost entirely to the Construction sites, which at the time are Ageira/DSE owned and operated, for obvious reasons. So in essence we're not trading with them at all, just hauling parts.
On the Ageira sides of things, they're alot more free. If Liberty REALLY wanted to screw with Rheinland, they'd forbid Ageira to repair Rheinland Gates and Lanes, then start shooting them up.
But, they don't, and Ageira has free roam everywhere:D
Tech wise, I beleive that Samura is attempting to crack the technology, for obvious reasons. MORE POWAH TO THE EMPEROR! XD
Gallia wise, people say Junker's stole it, but that's a lame reason. Considering how powerful they are, I would think they could develop it on their own.
Gallic gates and lanes are getting a remodel to reflect that aren't they?
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - Exsiled_one - 02-03-2010
Aren't liberty corps dictating the decisions of the navy? I think so
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - Tales23 - 02-03-2010
Ageira does care about money, and I have thought about cutting the maintenance to Rheinland gates as a way to end the war but what fun would that be and it would just piss off the other houses because what's stopping me from doing it to them? Anyway as for cracking I honestly don't think it's possible to crack the Technology especially with the safeguards that Ageira goes through, including a few of my own.
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - Sprolf - 02-03-2010
Gallia royally messes up many forms of RP that are directly related to Vanilla. There's so many plot holes and things that aren't explained or explained in such a way that it ruins factions if we actually pay attention to it - the whole gate/lane thing, or the Junker situation...
It's bothersome.
And if you'd WANT it explained, it'd be something like "Gallia's technology was unlike that of Sirius, and was sufficiently advanced to break into damaged white boxes the Junkers obtained, enough so to reverse engineer the gate and lane technology therein."
But, like I said - Gallia's a nightmare for canon.
I'd really be all for a new story that puts a Valhalla 2 on New Paris, so the Gallians would have engineered their own technology from that - perhaps after hearing of the applications of Sirian technology, they put two and two together. That, at least, would make a little sense within RP.
EDIT: To answer your original question, KHF...
If you'd want to do an RP about this gate/lane technology, you should probably talk to Tales about it, he's the Ageira leader, and thus the guy you'd want to talk to so you can make sure he approves your ideas so you're not powergaming his faction.
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - Lucend - 02-03-2010
Also realize that Ageira has never failed to recover a white box, but that doesn't mean there aren't secrets strewn about Sirius in destroyed tradelanes and defunct jumpgates.
Also, somewhat off topic, but way back when the war between Liberty and Rhienland started, I thought that Interspace commerce made a deal with the RM to supply Bonn Station. Which, I assume, also includes gate/lane parts?
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - Bobthemanofsteel - 02-03-2010
' Wrote:Also, somewhat off topic, but way back when the war between Liberty and Rhienland started, I thought that Interspace commerce made a deal with the RM to supply Bonn Station. Which, I assume, also includes gate/lane parts?
If they did, it would of had to go through Ageira, too, obviously.
I think we can safely say that such a contract would now be void with the embargo in place.
Unless they wished to renew it with us.
In which case we'd have to refer to the LN as to whether transportation of G/L Parts into Rheinland breaks embargo, and if it does, get a permit to allow Interspace to do that.
EDIT: Then again, when I think about it, it'd be rather pointless, considering we would have to install the part in the end anyway.
Technological Clarification- Lane And Gate Technology - kuth - 02-03-2010
' Wrote:Ageira does care about money, and I have thought about cutting the maintenance to Rheinland gates as a way to end the war but what fun would that be and it would just piss off the other houses because what's stopping me from doing it to them? Anyway as for cracking I honestly don't think it's possible to crack the Technology especially with the safeguards that Ageira goes through, including a few of my own.
Remember you don't fully decide Ageira's RP. If Igiss and crew decide that Kusair reverse engineers the tech, they did so and you would need to follow that RP.
Cutting off maintenance to the Rheinland gates and lanes is an intresting idea, though something on that level would likely have to pass through admins and such.
I agree Gallia put a lot of RP on its head, but its being worked out I think.