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Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - Fletcher - 06-24-2010

I found this article on the BBC news site:

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BBC News Wrote:Many might be alarmed to learn of a homemade nuclear reactor being built next door. But what if this form of extreme DIY could help solve the world's energy crisis?

By day, Mark Suppes is a web developer for fashion giant Gucci. By night, he cycles to a New York warehouse and tinkers with his own nuclear fusion reactor.

The warehouse is a non-descript building on a tree-lined Brooklyn street, across the road from blocks of apartments, with a grocery store on one corner. But in reality, it is a lab.

In a hired workshop on the third floor, a high-pitched buzz emanates from a corner dotted with metal scraps and ominous-looking machinery, as Mr Suppes fires up his device and searches for the answer to a question that has eluded some of the finest scientific minds on the planet.

In nuclear fusion, atoms are forcibly joined, releasing energy. It is, say scientists, the "holy grail" of energy production - completely clean and cheap.

The problem is, no-one has found a way of making fusion reactors produce more energy than they consume to run.
'I was inspired'

Mr Suppes, 32, is part of a growing community of "fusioneers" - amateur science junkies who are building homemade fusion reactors, for fun and with an eye to being part of the solution to that problem.

He is the 38th independent amateur physicist in the world to achieve nuclear fusion from a homemade reactor, according to community site Fusor.net. Others on the list include a 15-year-old from Michigan and a doctoral student in Ohio.

"I was inspired because I believed I was looking at a technology that could actually work to solve our energy problems, and I believed it was something that I could at least begin to build," Mr Suppes told the BBC.

While they might un-nerve the neighbours, fusion reactors of this kind are perfectly legal in the US.

"As long as they [private citizens] obtain that material [the components of the reactor] legally, they could do whatever they want," says Anne Stark, senior public information officer for California's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

During fusion, energy is released as atomic nuclei are forced together at high temperatures and pressures to form larger nuclei.

Scientists say devices like Mr Suppes' pose no real threat to neighbouring communities or the environment because they contain no nuclear materials, such as uranium or plutonium.

"There is no chance of any kind of accident with fusion," says Neil Calder, communications chief for Iter, a multi-national project begun in 1985 with the aim of demonstrating the feasibility of fusion power.

"There's no CO2 pollution, there's no greenhouse gases, you can't use it for proliferation [the spread of nuclear weapons] - it has so many advantages," he said.

'Mechanics to janitors'

Government-led efforts to produce power from fusion have been going on around the world for 50 years.

Iter - funded by US, Japan, Russia, India, China, and South Korea - is working on a multi-billion dollar, advanced reactor, due to be built in the south of France by 2019.

But the availability of equipment and technology has seen an increasing number of amateurs enter the fray.

"We have people in the whole gamut, from physicists to electronics people to car mechanics to even one janitor - and all these people share a common bond to do nuclear fusion in their home," said Richard Hull, founder of Fusor.net.

Some experts are sceptical that all these people are producing fusion reactions, but when he demonstrates his device, Mr Suppes says a bubble meter placed next to the reactor indicates that a fast neutron, a by-product of fusion, has been produced.

The amateur scientist began building his reactor two years ago, purchasing parts on eBay with $35,000 of his own money and about $4,000 he raised on a website that connects artists and inventors with private investors.

"Real researchers that are working at Los Alamos [US Department of Energy National Laboratory] and are working at Lawrence Livermore are following this and commenting on it, even though it's not an officially sanctioned project," he says.

Tricky situation

Mr Suppes sees his work in nuclear fusion as more than just a hobby, and he intends to try to build one of the world's first break-even reactors - a facility producing as much energy as it uses to operate.

"He now has to go out and do what everybody else has to do, which is to convince people to invest in his project - whether its government funding or private funding to carry him through," said Mr Calder.

Mr Suppes is hoping to build a break-even reactor from plans created by the late Robert Bussard, a nuclear physicist who drew up plans for a fusion reactor that could convert hydrogen and boron into electricity.

Work on a scaled up version of a Bussard reactor, funded by the US Navy, has already been taking place in California.

But Mr Suppes believes he will be able to raise the millions of dollars it takes to build a Bussard reactor because he feels someone with enough money "will feel they cannot pass up the opportunity" to find out if it will work.

Iter said it would be wrong to dismiss out of hand the notion that an amateur could make a difference.

"I won't say something that puts these guys down, but it's a tricky situation because there is a great deal of money and time and a lot of very experienced scientists working on fusion at the moment," said Mr Calder.

"But that does not eliminate other ideas coming from a different group of people."

What neighbours say

For Mr Suppes, convincing the experts is one thing. Convincing the locals is another problem entirely.

"A homemade nuclear fusion reactor being built in Brooklyn - I would have thought there would be some sort of rules and laws about messing around with nuclear fusion in your apartment," said Brooklyn resident Stephen Davis. "I'm not sure I'd like that living right next to me."

"The fact that he's trying to form a new kind of energy is all well and good," said another local, Christopher Wright. "But without the proper scientific work behind it, I don't know if it's too good of an idea."

But others had a more positive outlook on Mr Suppes' reactor.

"I think it's a good idea. If a guy can make an invention like that, it should definitely be spread around so we don't need to depend on oil," Brooklynite Chris Stephens told the BBC.

"We need to do something that's new and more creative for society."


All I can say is, wow, you can make a home-made nuclear reactor? Does this mean that if you make it and it works within safety parameters. That you can plug it into your power supply and feed energy back into the national grid? In essence, providing your own energy AND selling it to the country? They do that for solar and hydro-electic energy here.

This is an optimistic and ambitious project. Although, I admit, I'd be nervous if it was in my street, or village.

Opinions?


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - Sarawr!? - 06-24-2010

All I can say is "Holy Crap"


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - Zapp - 06-24-2010

Note that they still haven't even "broken even", let alone created more energy than they've used. I imagine his electric bill is still fairly high, unless he sells electricity back to them to make up some of the difference.


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - Sarawr!? - 06-24-2010

If the guy can spend 35,000$ of his own money buying parts off E-Bay...I'm sure he doesn't flinch at his electric bill, although you're right, it's probably through the roof XD


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - Reacher - 06-24-2010

Next step is heading out to North Dakota onto indian land and mining your own Uranium


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - Tenacity - 06-24-2010

I have serious doubts that anyone on this planet is capable of getting a nuclear fusion reactor working well enough to provide power. As was mentioned in the article - building a reactor that works isnt a big deal, it's been done before, but the problem is that they expends a much larger amount of energy than they produce.

Nuclear fusion is what stars run on - our own star is in a constant process of nuclear fusion, converting Hydrogen into Helium, which will eventually convert into other elements as the star ages. Near the end of a star's life cycle, the original Hydrogen it was composed of will be compressed to the point of becoming Iron, at which point it will either be small enough to form a neutron star, or be so large that it either collapses in on itself and forms a black hole or sluffs off the excess matter in a supernova.

What allows these stars throughout the universe to sustain nuclear fusion and -produce- energy is the fact that they are so unbelievably massive that the matter they are composed of creates enough gravitational pressure to fuse atoms at the core of the star. That kind of gravity and pressure does not exist on earth... hell, if you combined every planetary body in our solar system, they wouldnt even equal 1% of the total mass of the sun - that should give you an idea of how much gravity exists there.

Fusion reactors are great in theory, but we dont have the kind of mechanical implements needed to recreate a sustained fusion process. It would be more wise if these people would focus their efforts on a more reasonable source of energy that's actually possible with modern day technology. My suggestion: magnet motors. They've been made, they work, they require zero energy input and can produce large amounts of electricity in return.

' Wrote:Next step is heading out to North Dakota onto indian land and mining your own Uranium

This is the typical response of those neighbors that arent too pleased with this article =P

Nuclear fusion does not require radioactive materials. In fact, trying to achieve nuclear fusion with heavy atoms like that is much more difficult than doing so with lighter elements. Hydrogen/Helium are preferred.


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - Elvin - 06-24-2010

Well. It's not like it can seriously blow. It's just expensive project of a nerd. Sorry to put it like that, but... It's not really working, maybe those people who ... composed such "reactors" in their basements as a hobby should get together and create one which will work. Like... being usefull, instead of simply working. (yes, I know it's not that simple, heh)


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - jxie93 - 06-24-2010

Extreme health and safety issues too.

I can see why might the neighbours be worried about this.


Interesting article.



Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - AJBeast - 06-24-2010

' Wrote:Next step is heading out to North Dakota onto indian land and mining your own Uranium

Nuclear fusion =/= Nuclear fission. No Uranium needed, just Hydrogen. And a really big slingshot.

' Wrote:Extreme health and safety issues too.

I can see why might the neighbours be worried about this.


Interesting article.

The only health or safety issue I can imagine would be a huge blackout every time they try to make the thing work:P

Either way, while the theory behind nuclear fusion powerplants is already known, we simply don't have the technology to make them yet. Invest as much as you want, just don't be ready to rely on it when we are out of oil...


Exteme DIY: Nuclear Reactor - kingvaillant - 06-26-2010

Fusion reactors can't explode. If there is something wrong, it just doesn't work. Also, the fusion of deuterium and tritium(?) (not sure about the materials) is not dangerous. Sure, I wouldn't recommend to put your brain right next to those two elements though.

Fission reactors, however, are a lot more dangerous and hazardous for health and security.

Small scale efficient fusion is... impossible to achieve at the moment. I'm quite skeptical regarding those projects. Maybe they've watched Ironman a little too much.