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So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - CCI45-px/Probe149 - 10-21-2010

' Wrote:The BHG| official faction bounty board is now closed pending completion of an ongoing investigation into the possibility of gross violation of the bounty system.

Namely:
The singular nature of the recently issued internal bounty against the Zoners gave room for measurable observation of possible malconduct. The claim of a -single- Zoner kill in 9 days of combat is not a realistic representation of the combat waged in the name of this bounty.

Until further notice the BHG official faction is barred from creating bounties. However they may continue to collect from the bounties posted by others.

Any kills made in the name of the bounties listed on this board will be considered PVP violations.

Before you contact the admin team in protest do be aware that this is part of an ongoing process and was performed with their knowledge and consent.


[16:59:00] Argonaut: out of curiosity, you say that even in an officially declared war one has to collect the bounties, yes?

So i take [RM][LN][KNF]BAF also have to claim their bounties posted upon the enemies, yes?
[17:03:21] Dusty Lens: I want you to think about that question.
[17:14:10] Argonaut: according to what seems the argumentation of the Admin team, yes.
[17:17:27] Dusty Lens: Dusty Lens nods
[17:17:33] Dusty Lens: That's an interesting position.
[17:17:44] Dusty Lens: Do I have your permission to post it on the forum for discussion?
[17:18:03] Dusty Lens: Doubtless the resulting conversation would be phenominally interesting.


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So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - aerelm - 10-21-2010

I believe there was the misunderstanding that the Core have been shooting Zoners as a result of the Bounty. - Which is not True at all. The Bounty was put there After the War between Core & Omicron Zoners was official.

The Core has far better RP reasons to attack the Zoners, than a simple Bounty.

From The Core ID:
Quote:
  • Can attack Order, Nomad or Wilde and anyone actively assisting them.
  • Can destroy any ship produced by The Order, regardless of the pilot's faction affiliation.
  • Can demand allied pilots, Nomad technology and Nomad specimens from other ships and destroy ships if they refuse to hand them over.
As far as I know, These are the main three reasons why conflicts between Core & Omicron Zoners started, And Zoner-Order Relation have been Far more visible lately, so the first parameter is still a valid reason for the Core Pilots to attack Zoners.

So, the Bounty posted was just to let Core Pilots earn a quick buck by popping Zoners, not to Let them pop Zoners. And I believe the Bounty Rule which resulted in the Lock is so people can't shoot people just for their pee vee pleasure, but in the name of claiming a Bounty from a certain Board. - Which is certainly not the Case here.

My 2 SC

So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Zelot - 10-21-2010

Military factions are not in the business of claiming bounties. In fact they are prohibited from doing it by their IDs. The Bounty Hunters Guild is in fact in the business of chasing bounties, even if the actions of the player faction don't make that clear.

So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Ascalon - 10-21-2010

What if will be battle which including two lawful faction. For example LN and RM, so bounty hunters can't participate in this battle?


So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Dab - 10-21-2010

' Wrote:[16:59:00] Argonaut: out of curiosity, you say that even in an officially declared war one has to collect the bounties, yes?

So i take [RM][LN][KNF]BAF also have to claim their bounties posted upon the enemies, yes?
[17:03:21] Dusty Lens: I want you to think about that question.
[17:14:10] Argonaut: according to what seems the argumentation of the Admin team, yes.
[17:17:27] Dusty Lens: Dusty Lens nods
[17:17:33] Dusty Lens: That's an interesting position.
[17:17:44] Dusty Lens: Do I have your permission to post it on the forum for discussion?
[17:18:03] Dusty Lens: Doubtless the resulting conversation would be phenominally interesting.
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There is a reason Dusty asked you to think about that question...

You're trying to compare a house military to the BHG... That's where you went wrong.

BHG is a faction that exists purely for the hunting of bounties and the resulting profits. That's why you, and mercs, who share the same purpose, must claim bounties.

Frankly, this should be obvious to anyone who knows in even the slightest bit what the BHG is.

And just a side note, your entire question is so ridiculous I'm having a hard time not trolling it.

So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Dusty Lens - 10-21-2010

' Wrote:I believe there was the misunderstanding that the Core have been shooting Zoners as a result of the Bounty. - Which is not True at all. The Bounty was put there After the War between Core & Omicron Zoners was official.

In point of fact the bounty was put up the second the initial threat was laid out, it simply wasn't considered "active" until the deadline had expired.

Before anyone raises an eyebrow I think this is a very serious topic and request that you all treat it very seriously.

So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Agmen of Eladesor - 10-21-2010

The Bounty Hunters Guild is, as Zelot said, in the business of chasing bounties. (That's the BHG|.)

The Bounty Hunters Guild Core is not. It's a PMC - that means Private Military Company, for those of you from Rio Linda. (That's the BHG|Core.)

Go read what Dash wrote about us here on the forums. Use that search button - trust me, it won't hurt. (That, and I'm at work right now and don't have the link bookmarked.)

One of the things regarding a declared war is that both of our groups have chosen to not get involved if we can keep from it. And there were a LOT of discussions regarding the Bretonia / Kusari war and whether or not we should side with Bretonia in that one. In the end, we decided to not get involved in any of the house wars in Sirius on the sides of any of the houses.

Note that when Gallia does finally invade Sirius, we WILL take sides in that war, against Gallia, regardless of whether there is a bounty posted on them or not, because this is a war of extermination that also threatens our very living.

So, yeah, Altynbek, we COULD take sides in an LN or RM battle. We won't.

So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Ascalon - 10-21-2010

Heh, good. Thnx for help

So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Dab - 10-21-2010

' Wrote:The Bounty Hunters Guild is, as Zelot said, in the business of chasing bounties. (That's the BHG|.)

The Bounty Hunters Guild Core is not. It's a PMC - that means Private Military Company, for those of you from Rio Linda. (That's the BHG|Core.)

Go read what Dash wrote about us here on the forums. Use that search button - trust me, it won't hurt. (That, and I'm at work right now and don't have the link bookmarked.)

One of the things regarding a declared war is that both of our groups have chosen to not get involved if we can keep from it. And there were a LOT of discussions regarding the Bretonia / Kusari war and whether or not we should side with Bretonia in that one. In the end, we decided to not get involved in any of the house wars in Sirius on the sides of any of the houses.

Despite more than half of your post having nothing to do with the topic...

Whether the Core is a PMC or not, and I believe it is a paramilitary arm of the much larger BHG with a specific purpose and a short reign, the facts are that your ID has a set of restrictions you must abide by. You don't have the right to pick and choose which ones you follow.

' Wrote:Note that when Gallia does finally invade Sirius, we WILL take sides in that war, against Gallia, regardless of whether there is a bounty posted on them or not, because this is a war of extermination that also threatens our very living.
You do know that your ID doesn't allow that, right?

So, you have to claim bounties upon a hostile faction, even in a war? - Mannock - 10-21-2010

Here you'll see your own contradiction http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25311
Sorry Agmen, but we are not fools, we know read and unfortunately we do not believe in anything you say.

As can trust someone who breaks his own code ... I'm starting to seriously worry about you. Except that this is because you want a war with the Zoners. Say it once and be done with this nonsense.