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Omicron Supply Industries - Quorg - 07-31-2012
' Wrote:
- This has nothing to do with OSI Feedback.
Well as far as feedback goes,
I've never had a bad interaction with OSI in space.
I also like that their Nichols trade center actually makes supplying the base profitable for outside parties, thus encouraging variations from the normal trade routes.
Other than that, I'll bite my tongue for the time being.
Omicron Supply Industries - Govedo13 - 07-31-2012
' Wrote:I have a question. How is using a Stork or a Titanic an attempt to get around their ID? It's made quite clear that the Whale is the only ship they can't dock in house space.The difference between Stork and Whale is only in the name in terms of cargo and credit per second- I guess it is quite clear concept or I should do the maths for you?
Zoners per RP are neutral with all- so you got the same thing that you pledged to be removed 2 years back and got removed eventually:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...c=41409&hl=
Interesting statement now Dab very interesting- you got problems with the Indie Zoner Flood but you are ok if one faction got OPed even if it is the same thing.
It is clear that something is wrong in the whole concept.
' Wrote:If the admins intended them not to be able to dock other large transports in house space, the ID would say that they couldn't.Admins mess up sometimes- they are people too- like they messed up with the Miner ID after the first mess up with it. Players need to show them their mistakes in such cases.
' Wrote:This is nothing but petty butthurt and an attempt to drag OSI's name through the mud Govedo, admit it and go play the game.
Quote:3.1 Using coarse language, posting abusive, hateful, racist content in chat, public or private is prohibited under any circumstances. Any kind of flaming, threatening or insulting language directed at other members, factions or server administrators in chat, public or private, is prohibited on server and on forums. RP-related threats are allowed on the server.I am not butthurt for sure I never traded, never would trade anyway it does affect the corporate factions not me in anyway possible.You are mod and you should try to keep the personal remarks out of your posts,check the rules if you are not aware of them.
I am also not trolling or something my point is more then valid, for sure more valid then your skypefriendships and OP IDs. I got answer already so I wont post more here. I guess I said what I have to say.
Omicron Supply Industries - Daedric - 07-31-2012
' Wrote:Well as far as feedback goes,
I've never had a bad interaction with OSI in space.
I also like that their Nichols trade center actually makes supplying the base profitable for outside parties, thus encouraging variations from the normal trade routes.
Yay! That was the purpose of the station. We try to funnel H3 into the base also to keep it self sustaining so that our members and everyone else can trade to and from it.
@ Gov
I'm not going to hide it, nor did we (OSI leaders) try to hide it:
Yes, the OSI ID is a powerful trader ID now.
Does that mean it will be abused for pure ooRP power trading credit grinding purposes? Nope. That use is part of what got part of the Zoner ID (Guard) nerf'd in the first place.
Does that mean we won't power trade? No. We will, though what is power trading? I consider power trading to be exactly what we are all about. We move high amounts of cargo from A to B, for whatever reasons. In 4.85 we moved vast amounts of cargo to NPC bases under contract to other groups (mainly Zoner groups). In 4.86 we ditched that as many of our members had tired of it and we now supply a few player bases, with our own being the primary one.
Nor are we some elite club, our recruitment process is one of the simpliest on the server. Very few have been denied and those denials usually stem from ooRP issue between current faction membership and the applicant or due to the applicant's behaviour prior to applying.
Omicron Supply Industries - Govedo13 - 07-31-2012
The station thing is great- it is nice and one of the few stations in Sirius where you can buy stuff without being friend with the station Admin.
I also find the OSI Group quite nice like I stated I my first post, however I think that their new ID is a bit unfair towards the other trading factions- of course it could be countered by 2-3 Corporate factions FR5ing them- actually it should be ok with the ID like that- so RolePlay could fix the ID issue.
Omicron Supply Industries - fencore - 07-31-2012
Govedo, your opinion's been heard. you're beating a dead horse at this point. Take it to PMs if it's a matter of clarification. The answers to your questions are being provided, even if they're ones you don't like.
Issues with the IDs should be handled separately. No, there was no mistake regarding OSI being able to dock in house space. That was the intent - no capitals, yes to docking. The current restriction on the Whale is a point being discussed. Yes, you're very well entitled to hold your own opinions on what's right, wrong, underpowered or overpowered, but policy isn't going to be written tailored to what any single person wants.
In short, if you have further issue with the conduct of OSI as a faction feel free to continue to raise concerns. ID issues aren't up to OSI to decide, those are questions better raised at staff.
Omicron Supply Industries - Hone - 08-18-2012
Now that OSI can dock in house space, whats the incentive to keep your base in O49 seling H3 rather than just selling it yourself on southampton? RP? How does it make sense INR for OSI to maintain a base selling H£ when they could just sell it themselves for more profit a couple of systems away? After all, you said powertrading is what you're all about.
And why does the base sell toxic waste?
Omicron Supply Industries - Corsair - 08-19-2012
Because we like to throw a bit of roleplay into our faction maybe?
Omicron Supply Industries - Daedric - 08-20-2012
Nichols serves as a distribution point for Helium 3 for role play purposes and for out of role play purposes. Selling H3 for 7000 when we buy it for 3500 means the base can self sustain. I know a handful of non OSI members who use Nichols in some of their trade routes if H3 is on it - and that is what we wanted.
The base sells Toxic Waste as it is a direct route from Nichols to Aland for robotics.
RE: Omicron Supply Industries - EisenSeele - 03-24-2013
So... errm. Is the way you're handling diplomacy with Rheinland the way you handle diplomacy with all of the houses? I'm only asking because it only looks like the whole that-officially-tagged-ship-that-got-caught-supplying-hessians-was-actually-hijacked-so-it's-not-our-fault-and-we'll-act-ouraged-that-we've-been-found-out-to-be-pulling-that-excuse-out-of-our-bum-so-we-won't-be-paying-any-fines-levied-and-instead-offer-to-donate-to-charity-because-it-suits-us-because-we-think-your-admiral-smells-and-we'll-take-a-dump-on-the-several-attempts-at-letting-our-faction-get-out-of-this-almost-completely-unscathed-and-instead-continue-to-act-like-ponces routine doesn't seem like a way one would think to foster commercial neutrality.
The sentiment I seem to be getting is that the reason for your director's carefree attitude about how OSI shipping in Rheinland ends up is because most of the OSI routes aren't Rheinland based, and that there won't be any consequences to being considered a criminal faction by Rheinland. While it's understandable that you'd be completely fine letting your lore of profitability driven neutrality throughout Sirius (at least ic) to take a back seat to apathy driven from not caring about routes outside of your powertrading favorites, there will be consequences that reach far beyond just Rheinland if you continue to take unnecessary dumps on Rheinland's repeated efforts to let the OSI off the hook with a tiny fine (the original fine was only the price of buying the ore from Diamant, not considering the profits of the run) and a token acknowledgement of Rheinland Lawful ships in Rheinland while flying through there.
While that question is out there, if not because of your relationship with the houses, how exactly do you justify being able to dock zoner 5k's in house space?
RE: Omicron Supply Industries - Aazalot - 03-26-2013
What fun, public naysaying now.
Right first of all, the reason I personally went for the whole "hijacking" story was because everyone else was suggestion the more, mundane "just say he's rogue and get him to do a name change, kk" routine, sorry but for an Rp server that's just boring, unoriginal and down right rubbish, so i tried something else, im told its been done before but probably nowhere near as much as the whole rogue name change all is fine bit. So sorry for trying something that i thought, was a little different to the usual.
You would be right that our "powertrading" routes dont include Rheinland, but that isn't even in the picture here, inRP we have very little trade in Rheinland, and very little use for the systems themselves, most of our other Rp routes don't require going through Rheinland owned Systems, or to go into them at all.
In our reply to the deal what we stated isn't far from any truth you would find in the real world, nor is trying to seek good publicity with "the people", we accepted the requirement for having military/police escorts, but I pointed out that if we were still pirated, we get "I told you so" rights, so to speak, the Admirals "demand" for an apology is between us InRp, though OOC i could demand an apology from him for the rather abusive words he said about my faction and used towards me in the leader skype chat, if he thought that he should of kept it to himself.
Note that after we replied, we have not had one back since, AT ALL, no message nothing.
the 5k docking rights was put in before my time, by what i can remeber its to do with the OSI ID/Faction, we are allowed to dock 5k transports but are not allowed to buy capitol ships of any kind, that was dictated by admins/Devs and previous OSI leaders, any issues about that, you take up with the Dev team i guess.
And if you really want to moan about OSI, add me on skype, aazalot-vc.