+- Discovery Gaming Community (https://discoverygc.com/forums)
+-- Forum: Discovery Development (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Forum: Discovery Mod General Discussion (https://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=37)
+--- Thread: Technological Advancement (/showthread.php?tid=62558)
Pages:
1
2
Technological Advancement - Shaka - 07-02-2011
Right now, it's 817 A.S. and 4.86 will bring us 818 A.S. That's edging on 20 years since the sp campaign which was what - 800/801.
So here's my question: given this extended length of time, might we consider updating vanilla models? *cower*
It seems to me that in 20 years, most modern militaries and corporations would have replaced their frontline equipment. I'd like to think that the major sirian powers and corporations would also continue to improve the equipment they use.
Really, I just see this as an excuse to add/replace higher quality models into vanilla factions. Every time I read the forums, I see modellers creating ships that are in many ways exceeding the quality of vanilla ships. As a way of making vanilla ships just as visually pleasing as mod ships, I thought that the pretext of (in-RP) newer models could be used to replace and update (ship) models. Arguably, the ships added by the mod already fulfill this role, i.e valkryie->wraith, dagger->scimitar, but there is no actual difference in the models.
A drastic proposal I know, and one that might not be the best given the load that already exists to create new material, but something that I thought was interesting. I realize that many of these difficulties exist, so rather than feasibility, I'm more interested in what people think of the idea itself.
Thoughts?
Technological Advancement - alphadog - 07-02-2011
They are upgraded, Patriot -> Liberator... for example.
Technological Advancement - Primitive - 07-02-2011
' Wrote:They are upgraded, Patriot -> Liberator... for example.
Then its time for mk3 :cool:
Technological Advancement - SnakThree - 07-02-2011
' Wrote:Right now, it's 819A.SFixed.
Technological Advancement - Shaka - 07-02-2011
' Wrote:They are upgraded, Patriot -> Liberator... for example.
Yes that is advancement, but not really what I'm talking about. In your example, I would want to make the liberator a new model (you know, what it looks like). This kills two birds with one stone by updating something 20 years old in RP and almost 10 in ooRP.
Technological Advancement - ZxO - 07-02-2011
well some ships have this "upgrade" lilke the Decurion that Replaces the Legionary.
and we still need the old Models in game for the history feeling !
let all vanilla ships in game and put new models for theyr advanced versions that are allready in game like
Griffin advanced Hawk
Hussar Advanced Cavalier
Hyena Advanced Bloodhound
and so on
the Corsairs can Intodruce the M15 TitaniumCrusher that i modelled for the Void:D
Technological Advancement - Hielor - 07-02-2011
' Wrote:It seems to me that in 20 years, most modern militaries and corporations would have replaced their frontline equipment. I'd like to think that the major sirian powers and corporations would also continue to improve the equipment they use.The F-16 was introduced in 1974 and is still on active duty throughout the world.
Technological Advancement - jammi - 07-02-2011
' Wrote:Yes that is advancement, but not really what I'm talking about. In your example, I would want to make the liberator a new model (you know, what it looks like). This kills two birds with one stone by updating something 20 years old in RP and almost 10 in ooRP.The clone ship models will be replaced as soon as modellers get around to it. Unfortunately, there are more pressing priorities, like replacing those bloody awful Homeworld imports.
Technological Advancement - Shaka - 07-03-2011
' Wrote:The F-16 was introduced in 1974 and is still on active duty throughout the world.
Yeah, but compare an early F-16, to the current versions that are serving now.
A lot has changed.
Technological Advancement - Jinx - 07-03-2011
cosmetics is one thing - and also part of the balance...
real advancement is another.
in contrast to the real world - this is a pvp enviroment. in the real world - every side will TRY HARD to gain the upper hand - and no one will blame the balance when US M1 tanks roam the desert where the other side tries to put them down with ww2 RPGs.
but if we have - lets say... the rogues fly in 60s jets, like http://www.aviation.ru/MiG/15/MiG-15.jpg and give the liberty navy stuff like this http://wiki.ksso.ch/mediawiki/images/9/95/F_35_ctol.jpg - the playerbase would complain hard and blame "the balance devs"
so we can only let everyone advance.
there is also something like a high tech stagnation. - once you reached the pinnacle of your technology in terms of physical laws, you ll need a real breakthrough.
freelancer ships can already:
- cheaply use particle, plasma, laser etc. cannons that appear to be more powerful than even a neutron star at closest vicinity
- have cheap antigrav drives - allowing them atmospheric flight
- even the smallest ship comes with a cruise drive
- the big ships hurl antimatter causing shockwaves as large as moons
- bombers come with a cannon that is more poweful than shooting a black hole
how much further can you really go
but yes - we can apply logical advancements to factions ( FTL drives, cloaking ) - leaves the question .... does the other side ( the side that was not given that stuff ) enjoy the game just the same?