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Tag non-faction group - wrathkin - 03-11-2008
With the current (understandable) state of independent Zoner:s Zonerishness being in doubt, I have proposed to create a tag for Zoners recognized by the Zoner Council. This would be no faction, just an indication of recognition, and the rules I intend to propose to the Council are the following:
Quote:1. That the Council award the right to use the tag {IZ} to all Zoners that are voting members of the Zoner Council and not members of any faction, and any Zoner that would be allowed as voting members and are registered but have not taken their seat.
2. That bearers of said tag are required to live by the Zoner code, and take partake in any conflict unless one of the sides have officially declared Zoners their enemies, are in the process of attacking or threatening other Zoners (//including NPC), or are in the process of attacking or threatening Zoner installations, Freeports or planets.
3. That violators of these rules, as well as anyone using the tag without being a registered Zoner recognized by the Council, are considered persona non grata in Zoner controlled space, and on Zoner controlled installations, Freeports and planets.
4. That violators of these rules, as well as anyone using the tag without being a registered Zoner recognized by the Council, are to be considered fair game by the Council and are not protected in any way by their apparent status as as registered Zoners until the Council decides that the offender has been rehabilitated or the tag is removed.
5. That offenders according to (3) and (4) are published by the Council to the other Sirius factions through public channels, to make it known that they are not protected by their apparent status as registered Zoners.
6. That any Zoner registered accoring to (1) can at any time choose to remove the tag and thereby not be bound by these rules from that moment on.
Now, would this constitute a faction, or could this be done without creating a new faction? If it is decided, there will be no leadership, no fees, no obligations apart from the neutrality stated in (2), and it would be managed through the Zoner Council, which is an association of Zoners and Zoner organizations.
Tag non-faction group - Xoria - 03-11-2008
I feel like I am just two proposals away from starting a character whose sole mission in life is to obliterate all unofficial tags from the galaxy. Perhaps this would be a good basis for a terrorist...
Tag non-faction group - Tilion - 03-11-2008
I agree with Xoria. I am new, and I see so many different tags that is slightly difficult to keep the official ones straight. Anyhow, I hate when I encounter unofficial tags. From a newb standpoint, it makes me think, once again there is something else I missed in reading the forums. Therefore, I second guess myself in RP and don't want to screw up and get banned or fined.
So if you see my out there, my apologies if I'm a bit shy or stand off a bit. I'm STILL learning who everyone is. Non-faction tags makes this process longer.
Tilion
Tag non-faction group - Jinx - 03-11-2008
it would be more logical to "tag" zoners by their home station, instead of tagging them as a community. - so if someone considers freeport 11 her / his home, i wouldn t mind seeing for example:
[FP11] Persephone-II-
and if someone is stationed at freeport 5, it would be [FP5] Persephone-II-
but the point of not being in a faction is not to be in a faction, sort of. so there is not much need for it. the council registry provides the community with those zoners that RP zoners as independents - and thats sort of its sole purpose.
the council is there to "get things done" in a zonerish way - if there are things to be done. so, - all in all, the zoners are doing OK here. i don t think its anyway beneficial to impose ANY organization or rules against "unwanted zoners" or so. if they are not registered, they are still zoners. we don t need to respect them, but that makes them no less zoners than anyone else with a zoner ID. it is vastly violating the rules to treat them less than other zoners - and by implementing a tag for those "good" zoners, those without the tag will be painted as "rogue players" or ... more simple "bad RPers".
what i d like to see for zoners is really small communities, thats minifactions that show their origin station. along with that, there should be a restriction of influence when it comes to the zoner guardfleet. - so a guard of FP 11 is unlikely to fly to FP10 ( well unlikely anyway, cause there are the asteroids ).
so, as a basis, your idea is good, wrathkin - but it doesn t really support the zoner way ( in my opinion ). the council is as far as a siriuswide community goes. other than that, its only tight knit communities around stations. - i think zoners rather associate themselves to their homesystems / stations than to the zoners in general ... but thats maybe just me.
edit: hope the comment about shooting down unofficial tags as a terrorist basis was a joke, cause you cannot get much more ooRP than that. - characters hardly know anything about official or unofficial factions. - and whatever many factions you see. if you don t know the faction, go by the ID. thats all.
Tag non-faction group - wrathkin - 03-11-2008
I agree with most of the above - and if people bothered to check the Zoner Registry, or most people with Zoner ID rp:d a Zoner a tag would be less than useless. As it is, it'd be a way for anyone to determine at a glance if a Zoner was at least semi-kosher.
Of course, it could be made more Zonerish by making it into a FP tag as suggested, but still subject to review by the ZC to keep the benefits - for example Sebastian_Wrath(FP11-Trader) or Sebastian_Wrath(FP10-Escort).
Note that it is in no way certain that the desicion would be made by the Council if it is ruled legal by the admins - only that it is probable that I'll make the proposal there.
/w
Tag non-faction group - Eppy - 03-11-2008
Quote:edit: hope the comment about shooting down unofficial tags as a terrorist basis was a joke, cause you cannot get much more ooRP than that. - characters hardly know anything about official or unofficial factions. - and whatever many factions you see. if you don t know the faction, go by the ID. thats all.
Of course he was joking, Jinx, it's Xoria; that would be completely out of character for him:lol:
Really, though, it's a nice idea, but I don't think it will work. I can't believe I'm about to use a blatantly religious metaphor here, but I can't help but liken it to the Antichrist marking those loyal to him with the Mark of the Beast...indeed, the entire point of a Zoner is freedom and independence. This feels like it would be squashing that.
Tag non-faction group - Dab - 03-11-2008
When I suggested the two different registry lists, voting/bonafide (as Mal calls it) and affiliate list, I hadn't planned on having anyone use a tag. The list serves only a small purpose really.. Voting members of the registry will be protected Zoners, affiliates will have less protection, but still some.
Any tags should be completely voluntary. That includes IZ or the FP tags.