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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - Kruger - 12-20-2011
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - AeternusDoleo - 12-20-2011
**** Incoming Transmission ****
From: Johnathan Sanders
To: Kruger Mineralien, Essen Station
CC: Rheinland Federal Police, New Berlin office
Subject: Attacks?
Encryption: Standard
Gentlemen,
I get the distinct impression Kruger is looking to blow this out of proportion. All I see in the transcripts you offered is two miners attempting a practical joke at one of your automated platforms (which would have been easy to prevent if some human supervision were present - but I wager your latest round of worker budget cuts have restructured that position into oblivion), a half conversation with a Bowex convoy, probably passing Freistadt - the context is missing there, and some worker bickering. Many of our members have joined us from Kruger after one of the aforementioned restucturing rounds, and they do not have much of a fondness for their previous employer. I cannot say I blame them.
To address each point:
--Attempted theft of Kruger Minerals property
No attempt to seize property was made. The incident with the drone could be described as vandalism at worst.
--Attempting to seize vital informations about Kruger technologies
Considering anyone can seize wrecked vessels at will, and Omega 7 is full of those (of many parties, including our own) I do not see the relevance. Mining technologies are not classified. Unless you're using some kind of covert military technologies on your miners that we are unaware of?
--Accessing the Kruger automated vehicles with no authorisation
Having those automated drones in the field unsupervised is a violation in and of itself, as I recall. It wouldn't be the first time one of them shorted out and started attacking us. Although I'm not certain, I'll have to take that up with the Rheinland Federal Police. I'll include them in this communique. Regardless, as said above, at worst it could be described as vandalism.
--Insulting Employes of the Kruger Minerals
Considering your drone's insinuation that we work with pirates... there is an expression about kettles and pots that applies here.
--Attempts to undermine our agreements with foreign companies
That is called economic competition. Live with it.
On a sidenote. I realise you'll probably disavow knowledge of it, but tensions would be greatly reduced if a strange wing of reportedly Kruger affiliated bombers would remove themselves from the Tau region and hoof it back to the Omegas where they belong. Wether or not these actually belong to you isn't relevant - if they claim to act in Kruger's name in their campaign of terror up north, then Kruger has the ability to send them a message. To my knowledge your wars are with Daumann and the Hessians, not with us. Unless you choose to make it so.
As for your demands, it is not your perogative to make any. Bring the matter up with the Rheinland legal authorities if you feel you have a strong enough case. We will not respond to extortion of any kind.
Regards,
- Guildmaster Johnathan Sanders
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - Kaiserliche Polizei Rheinlands - 12-21-2011
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PRIORITY: [color=#33CC00]Medium
ENCRYPTION: Medium
IDENTIFICATION: Oberst Fritz Schulz
SOURCE: Nibelung Polizei Plaza, Planet New Berlin
SUBJECT: Indepedent Miner Guild incidents in Omega-7
ENCRYPTION: Medium
IDENTIFICATION: Oberst Fritz Schulz
SOURCE: Nibelung Polizei Plaza, Planet New Berlin
SUBJECT: Indepedent Miner Guild incidents in Omega-7
Sehr geehrter Herr Sanders, sehr geehrte Direktoren of Kruger,
The Rheinland Bundespolizei contacts you to arbitrate in disputes happened in Omega-7.
It has taken a while to review the evidences given by Kruger.
IMG has to be aware, that the permission for the registered barge The.Almighty.One is suspended, until this is solved and the barge will be disabled, if necessary.
The following incidents will now be judged by the Rheinland Bundespolizei:
To sum this up, the Indepedent Miner Guild has to transfer the following fines:
For malicious damaging of Kruger property and illegal competition methods: 25.000.000 sc to Kruger|Vault-01.
For resolving these disputes fair and official: 5.000.000 sc to RFP|Arsenal.
If one of both involved parties dissents these incidents are in need of revision and I'll forward the disputes to a greater judge instance in the Rheinland Bundespolizei.
Mit freundlichem GruÃe
Oberst Fritz Schulz
Rheinland Bundespolizei
The Rheinland Bundespolizei contacts you to arbitrate in disputes happened in Omega-7.
It has taken a while to review the evidences given by Kruger.
IMG has to be aware, that the permission for the registered barge The.Almighty.One is suspended, until this is solved and the barge will be disabled, if necessary.
The following incidents will now be judged by the Rheinland Bundespolizei:
[color=#FF9900]1) Kruger against IMG: malicious damage of Kruger installations
The security video of the stationary miner Kruger|Vaalermoore-Drone has shown clearly the damaging and disabling of Kruger property. The following disturbing effect of the Rheinland economy can't be ignored. Our experts have proofed the compensation of Kruger. In result of the import costs of repair parts, the fuel costs and the personal costs to repair said mining station equal the amount. As result of this the following amount has to be paid from the Indepedent Miner Guild:
15.000.000 sc to [color=#33CC00]Kruger|Vault-01.
The security video of the stationary miner Kruger|Vaalermoore-Drone has shown clearly the damaging and disabling of Kruger property. The following disturbing effect of the Rheinland economy can't be ignored. Our experts have proofed the compensation of Kruger. In result of the import costs of repair parts, the fuel costs and the personal costs to repair said mining station equal the amount. As result of this the following amount has to be paid from the Indepedent Miner Guild:
15.000.000 sc to [color=#33CC00]Kruger|Vault-01.
2) Kruger against IMG: showing possible hostile intentions and illegal competition
The log parts passed to us by Kruger|Hans (###) show a possible threat of Rheinland citizens as result of the, as you already stated, competition.
While I can understand a competition in this mining area, I've to remark the usage of fire power and/or other harming actions against a competitor is not allowed.
I'm sure I've not to mention, the Indepedent Miner Guild got the mining rights in the northern Omega-7 as result of their good relations with Kruger Minerals. If the miner guild now misused such relations, said mining rights can be revoked.
Fortunately, for you, Herr Sanders, the evidence this incident is given to us without context. But to be sure this won't be misinterpreted by the leaders of Kruger Minerals and the Rheinland Bundestag, an additional fine of 10.000.000 sc has to be transfered to the Kruger|Vault-01 and you get a warning to not showing such behaviour again.
The court fees for these disputes and the solving by the Rheinland Bundespolizei in the first judge instance amount to additional 5.000.000 sc and have to be paid by the IMG.The log parts passed to us by Kruger|Hans (###) show a possible threat of Rheinland citizens as result of the, as you already stated, competition.
While I can understand a competition in this mining area, I've to remark the usage of fire power and/or other harming actions against a competitor is not allowed.
I'm sure I've not to mention, the Indepedent Miner Guild got the mining rights in the northern Omega-7 as result of their good relations with Kruger Minerals. If the miner guild now misused such relations, said mining rights can be revoked.
Fortunately, for you, Herr Sanders, the evidence this incident is given to us without context. But to be sure this won't be misinterpreted by the leaders of Kruger Minerals and the Rheinland Bundestag, an additional fine of 10.000.000 sc has to be transfered to the Kruger|Vault-01 and you get a warning to not showing such behaviour again.
To sum this up, the Indepedent Miner Guild has to transfer the following fines:
For malicious damaging of Kruger property and illegal competition methods: 25.000.000 sc to Kruger|Vault-01.
For resolving these disputes fair and official: 5.000.000 sc to RFP|Arsenal.
If one of both involved parties dissents these incidents are in need of revision and I'll forward the disputes to a greater judge instance in the Rheinland Bundespolizei.
Mit freundlichem GruÃe
Oberst Fritz Schulz
Rheinland Bundespolizei
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - AeternusDoleo - 12-21-2011
**** Incoming Transmission ****
From: Johnathan Sanders
To: Rheinland Federal Police, New Berlin office
CC: Kruger Mineralien, Essen Station
Subject: Challenging a ruling
Encryption: Standard
Gentlemen,
While I can understand and will not challenge the ruling based on damages to property - although 15 million almost buys you an entire new bare Hegemon class mining vessel - I strongly suspect that "assessment" to be inflated. But perhaps the cost will be a lesson for those involved to not tinker with competitor assets again. It was a foolish thing to do.
I however will be challenging the arbitration on our contact with the BowEx transports. The communication seems to indicate the BowEx pilot's dissatisfaction with the sluggish performance of the Kruger working crews. Naturally we offer to show them how motivated miners handle matters. If Kruger, or Daumann for that matter are unable to match the performance that a group of independent miners can deliver, then that speaks volumes about the motivation of the workers within those companies. For that those companies have only themselves to blame, not us. There is nothing illegal about economic competition - it is the basis for the free interstellar commerce that drives the Sirian economy. And we will not be told whom we can and cannot do business with (barring of course Libertonian companies whom are banned throughout Rheinland space).
Perhaps Rheinland has forgotten the history of the Omega 7 system, but we are not the intruding party there. The Independent Miners Guild was there long before either Kruger and Daumann chose to expand their operations into the system. It were our pilots that charted the various hazards within the system, away from the Trade Lanes. It were our prospectors that found most of the currently prospected resources which are now nearing exhaustion. When Rheinland opened up it's own mining operations we saw no reason to oppose them - The resources in Omega 7 are so vast that there is plenty to go around for all parties involved. But if by the dogma of "might makes right" Rheinland seeks to evict us from that system in any fashion, expect that to be opposed, in the strongest form.
As for the barge "The.Almighty.One", it was a leased asset that to my knowledge served it's purpose. I do not believe it is still present in the Omega 7 system, it's current whereabouts are not known to me.
Oberst Schultz, I respectfully request the matter of the trade dispute to be forwarded to the proper legal authorities. As for the context of said communications - it should not be too difficult to contact BowEx, and hear their take on the situation. The pilots involved should be able to clear this up right quick.
Regards,
- Guildmaster Johnathan Sanders
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - Kaiserliche Polizei Rheinlands - 12-21-2011
PRIORITY: [color=#33CC00]Medium
ENCRYPTION: Medium
IDENTIFICATION: Oberst Fritz Schulz
SOURCE: Nibelung Polizei Plaza, Planet New Berlin
SUBJECT: Re: Challenging a ruling
ENCRYPTION: Medium
IDENTIFICATION: Oberst Fritz Schulz
SOURCE: Nibelung Polizei Plaza, Planet New Berlin
SUBJECT: Re: Challenging a ruling
Sehr geehrter Herr Sanders,
it seems you misunderstood our position here. The Rheinland Bundespolizei is here to solve this problem. Both parties have to send their evidences to this channel. This includes also the miner guild with contra-evidence.
But I'll start with the damaging of that Kruger miner:
At first I've to say, the technical facts are out of my area of competence. The reason for the amount of credits is the Rheinland operation system for such automated miner. It is not, in any way, comparable to the standard sirius hegemon miner class, because all action normally done by a pilot are to be passed to said operation system. For the performance there is a hardware level kernel needed which only works with specified models of capacitors, processors and other electronic components. Much of these expensive components are destroyed or damaged by the short-circuit. But as said, it's not my business.
The second problem is the threat to the Kruger civilians.
The problem here is, according to the evidence and in connection to the first disabling of Kruger property, it looks these IMG employees were ready to shoot the Kruger ships. It doesn't matter if or if not there was a third party (Bowex) and we don't intervene in contracts between such a party and the Miner guild, if it's lawful.
Of course I'm aware of the history of Omega-7. But regarding the youngest conflict in Omega-7 we're aware the Independent Miner Guild shows clear his position in this area. We are not willing that such an incident causes in another Omega-7 conflict and I hope you won't it too. But as said, we cannot allow a threat against our civilians.
So if you prove this was no threat against the Kruger ships, I'm enforced to nullify the second fine of the 10.000.000 sc.
Mit freundlichem GruÃe
Oberst Fritz Schulz
Rheinland Bundespolizei
it seems you misunderstood our position here. The Rheinland Bundespolizei is here to solve this problem. Both parties have to send their evidences to this channel. This includes also the miner guild with contra-evidence.
But I'll start with the damaging of that Kruger miner:
At first I've to say, the technical facts are out of my area of competence. The reason for the amount of credits is the Rheinland operation system for such automated miner. It is not, in any way, comparable to the standard sirius hegemon miner class, because all action normally done by a pilot are to be passed to said operation system. For the performance there is a hardware level kernel needed which only works with specified models of capacitors, processors and other electronic components. Much of these expensive components are destroyed or damaged by the short-circuit. But as said, it's not my business.
The second problem is the threat to the Kruger civilians.
The problem here is, according to the evidence and in connection to the first disabling of Kruger property, it looks these IMG employees were ready to shoot the Kruger ships. It doesn't matter if or if not there was a third party (Bowex) and we don't intervene in contracts between such a party and the Miner guild, if it's lawful.
Of course I'm aware of the history of Omega-7. But regarding the youngest conflict in Omega-7 we're aware the Independent Miner Guild shows clear his position in this area. We are not willing that such an incident causes in another Omega-7 conflict and I hope you won't it too. But as said, we cannot allow a threat against our civilians.
So if you prove this was no threat against the Kruger ships, I'm enforced to nullify the second fine of the 10.000.000 sc.
Mit freundlichem GruÃe
Oberst Fritz Schulz
Rheinland Bundespolizei
To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - AeternusDoleo - 12-21-2011
**** Incoming Transmission ****
From: Johnathan Sanders
To: Rheinland Federal Police, New Berlin office
CC: Kruger Mineralien, Essen Station
Subject: Challenging a ruling
Encryption: Standard
Gentlemen,
The IMG's chief interest in all areas we operate in, is to provide labor for those who are willing to make a living in deep space mining and refining. We avoid conflict if at all possible, but when our ability to provide labor is threatened, our hand is forced. However, I do not believe this is Rheinland's intent (although I suspect the foreign affairs department is a better entity to speak of such matters then the Rheinland Police). Regardless, I have done some digging and managed to retrieve the full logs of the event in question, albeit just a transcript, from one of the vessels involved. I'm forwarding them now. Feel free to check their validity against transcripts from both Kruger and BowEx - I trust you will find these are legitimate.
Quote:The transcript begins as a small IMG worker team comes upon a Bowex convoy being loaded. Apparantly, slowly. Seeing an opportunity to put our own people to the task, our workers try to see if they can get in on the filling. The perceived threat that Kruger has so graciously pulled out of context is highlighted. If anyone made a threat, it would be the BowEx transport "Underbridge", but I doubt it.
[19.12.2011 22:22:31] Bowex)Underbridge: Good deal then.
[19.12.2011 22:22:33] Nicholas.Jurgen: I was speaking to the capt of Laker
[19.12.2011 22:22:43] Bowex)Underbridge: ah, okay.
[19.12.2011 22:22:49] Bowex)Laker: Ah right sure thing
[19.12.2011 22:23:09] IMG|Crying.Rock: Greetings, Bowex... hope you don't buy low quality ore from Kruger
[19.12.2011 22:23:36] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: You see we do lad. Any problem with that. *smiles*
[19.12.2011 22:23:38] Nicholas.Jurgen: Don't come here throwin insults at us!
[19.12.2011 22:23:56] IMG|Crying.Rock: Wantme to throw jelly bears at you? *smiles*
[19.12.2011 22:24:29] IMG|Tanzanite: Kurt: Heh, just Bowex.
[19.12.2011 22:24:43] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Hope youre not hear to cause trouble IMG? were not used to that from you lads.
[19.12.2011 22:24:45] Bowex)Underbridge: is the military still in thge system?
[19.12.2011 22:25:01] IMG|Tanzanite: Kurt: We are here to mine.
[19.12.2011 22:25:02] Bowex)Underbridge: cause if they're not...we could blow those transports up.
[19.12.2011 22:25:05] IMG|Crying.Rock: No we are friendly... as in Dublin. We just want against your dealing with Krugers
[19.12.2011 22:25:11] IMG|Crying.Rock: They are... not to be trusted
[19.12.2011 22:25:38] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: *grins* They offered us a contract lads and you know us, when we accept it we complete it.
[19.12.2011 22:25:45] IMG|Tanzanite: Kurt: Blow up "those transports"?
[19.12.2011 22:25:52] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Thats why people trust us.
[19.12.2011 22:25:57] Bowex)Laker: Thorpe: Bowex keep to our contracts
[19.12.2011 22:26:17] IMG|Crying.Rock: Just warning, the Omegas are... different
[19.12.2011 22:26:26] Bowex)Underbridge: Oh dear. I didn't mean to have that button down...
[19.12.2011 22:26:29] Bowex)Laker: Thorpe: And why is that?
[19.12.2011 22:26:37] IMG|Crying.Rock: If that is your first time operating down here... better get a raincoat. It tends to rain all the time here... plasma, etc
[19.12.2011 22:27:31] IMG|Crying.Rock: So... not threatening anything.. most of the violence comes from the Kruger side
[19.12.2011 22:27:52] IMG|Crying.Rock: So you should probably be safe, as IMG does only defend their claims and access to resources
[19.12.2011 22:27:53] Bowex)Laker: Thorpe: I must say, never encountered that. And I'm sure today won't be the first time either
[19.12.2011 22:28:10] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Than be the good lads and let them finish up so we can deliver this to the rheinland industry. You know makes the...
[19.12.2011 22:28:20] Bowex)Woodford: RM happy,
The comms go silent for a while at this point as everyone, Kruger and IMG, focuses on mining. Although there's a degree of animosity, it stays civil enough.
[19.12.2011 22:34:24] IMG|Crying.Rock: Yeah, we've been wondering what they are doing... you could have warned them about the O7 dangers. They seemed ignorant
[19.12.2011 22:34:35] Bowex)Woodford: This party gets bigger and bigger.
[19.12.2011 22:34:42] Bowex)Underbridge: Or just stupid Bold...
[19.12.2011 22:34:46] Kruger|Hans: if any danger shows up we will be hapy to help them aniway we can *smiles*
[19.12.2011 22:36:11] IMG|Khar-Selim: Sweet, oh how I love to see Silver ore just pouring into my hold
[19.12.2011 22:36:44] IMG|Khar-Selim: Okay full.
[19.12.2011 22:36:53] IMG|Khar-Selim: How much is that?
[19.12.2011 22:37:06] IMG|Crying.Rock: I want payment. 3 is okay
[19.12.2011 22:37:23] IMG|Crying.Rock: Thank you
[19.12.2011 22:37:48] IMG|Kurt.Steinmetz: Danke.
[19.12.2011 22:37:49] IMG|Crying.Rock: Bowex, want to be filled faster? *grins*
[19.12.2011 22:38:18] IMG|Crying.Rock: These loser Krugers... we have 4 Mafics out here.
[19.12.2011 22:38:27] IMG|Crying.Rock: You can be full in less tham 3 minutes.
Not the most diplomatic way to offer your services, granted, but those in the field are miners, not politicians. And I will again draw your attention to the fact that Kruger apparantly had their automated platform programmed to insinuate IMG condones piracy. When it comes to insults, I find the latter more distasteful.
[19.12.2011 22:38:39] Kruger|Hans: trying to say something Crying rock ?
[19.12.2011 22:38:41] IMG|Kurt.Steinmetz: Oh, let them, if they do not want it...
[19.12.2011 22:38:44] IMG|Crying.Rock: *leaning back, smiling*
[19.12.2011 22:39:09] IMG|Crying.Rock: Just saying we fill 5 transports in the time you manage 2 and a half.
[19.12.2011 22:39:19] IMG|Crying.Rock: Okay, Miners... new customer.
[19.12.2011 22:39:21] Kruger|Hans: god for you
[19.12.2011 22:39:31] IMG|Crying.Rock: Let's show these Krugies what we do and how we do it
[19.12.2011 22:39:46] Kruger|Hans: i'm amused and curious how you do things
[19.12.2011 22:41:24] [ALG]-Sea}{Lauterbach: Dunstan: Mein gott you are fast miners
[19.12.2011 22:41:27] IMG|Crying.Rock: Full, Sir.
[19.12.2011 22:41:33] IMG|Crying.Rock: Next one, please
[19.12.2011 22:41:37] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Aalt and Hans could you help these two lads out filling us? No offense guys but its taking to long.
[19.12.2011 22:41:40] IMG|Kurt.Steinmetz: Der naechste bitte.
[19.12.2011 22:41:50] Bowex)Woodford: **is getting inpatient*
[19.12.2011 22:41:55] IMG|HoldingBroke: thats what happens when the miners actually get together to work together
[19.12.2011 22:42:02] IMG|Kurt.Steinmetz: Tzehehe
[19.12.2011 22:42:24] [ALG]-Sea}{Lauterbach: Danke IMG. Krugers, saw you were busy, will get with you next time
[19.12.2011 22:43:25] IMG|Crying.Rock: Okay, Bowex... we are here... if you want... come over
[19.12.2011 22:43:34] IMG|Crying.Rock: We can make you an offer... I'd say... first fill is free
[19.12.2011 22:44:03] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: I take the offer lads.
I'm assuming that this offer is what Kruger considers an unfair business practise. In effect, it's an advertisement of services. One that was offered to BowEx and accepted by them.
[19.12.2011 22:44:11] IMG|Crying.Rock: What are you mining, Sirs?
[19.12.2011 22:44:20] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Cobalt
[19.12.2011 22:44:40] IMG|Crying.Rock: After our transport that is coming in, we will fill one of you guys, to show you what speed and efficiency is
[19.12.2011 22:44:52] IMG|HoldingBroke: i'm in
[19.12.2011 22:45:13] IMG|Crying.Rock: Woodford this is Silver. I guess you might not want this ore type, though
[19.12.2011 22:45:23] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Nope
[19.12.2011 22:45:44] IMG|Crying.Rock: OKay, Miners... let's move to Cobalt and fill this Woodford one.
[19.12.2011 22:45:50] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: I could take mit along iff you want *smiles*
[19.12.2011 22:46:00] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Good
[19.12.2011 22:46:28] IMG|Crying.Rock: Woodford, get to teh CObalt field
[19.12.2011 22:46:45] IMG|Crying.Rock: IMG miners, let's do this... Woodford, tell us when to start.
[19.12.2011 22:47:01] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: fill me up lads.
[19.12.2011 22:47:08] IMG|Crying.Rock: Sir, you are outside the field
[19.12.2011 22:47:12] IMG|Crying.Rock: Get in, before we start
[19.12.2011 22:47:16] IMG|Kurt.Steinmetz: Over here.
[19.12.2011 22:47:17] IMG|Crying.Rock: Check your mining map for that.
[19.12.2011 22:47:39] IMG|Crying.Rock: Okay, we are starting
[19.12.2011 22:48:02] Bowex)Underbridge: Are miner and Jurgen both filling laker now?
[19.12.2011 22:50:28] IMG|Kurt.Steinmetz: Done.
[19.12.2011 22:50:30] IMG|Crying.Rock: Was that fast or was that fast?
[19.12.2011 22:50:37] Bowex)Woodford: Eileen: Thanks lads, now were gonne fly hard.
[19.12.2011 22:50:44] IMG|Kurt.Steinmetz: Viel Glueck.
[19.12.2011 22:50:45] Bowex)Woodford: Hell of a speed
[19.12.2011 22:50:50] Bowex)Laker: Thorpe: Thanks lads
[19.12.2011 22:50:56] IMG|Crying.Rock: So... Bowex, think about it... a non-exclusive contract for O7 would benefit you
[19.12.2011 22:51:06] IMG|Crying.Rock: If we see you, we will mine for you, too
With the arrival of a Corsair raiding party, the transports and miners withdrew towards Freistadt. I can only assume the Kruger ships withdrew to Elbich instead.
[19.12.2011 22:51:11] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: ooh look, friends!
[19.12.2011 22:51:22] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: Hola
[19.12.2011 22:51:43] Corsair-Trueno_Benitez: Hola senores...are we correct for the support the corsairs meetings?
[19.12.2011 22:51:45] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: why running already... we just want to talk
[19.12.2011 22:52:06] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: lets try the others then
[19.12.2011 22:52:31] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: ooh, look
[19.12.2011 22:52:36] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: a polar bear
[19.12.2011 22:52:37] IMG|Crying.Rock: Greetings, Corsairs.
[19.12.2011 22:52:46] PolarBear: good day Benitez
[19.12.2011 22:53:03] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: how bout a small donation, before we ruin your day mr bear
[19.12.2011 22:54:11] [ALG]-Sea}{Lauterbach: Bunter, there are corsairs in the northern fields
[19.12.2011 22:54:57] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: gracias, we wont bother you senores
At this point, the BowEx ships arrived at Freistadt and headed into Rheinland, while our miners enjoyed a well-deserved break on Freistadt while the Corsairs were being dealt with.
Given the context of the statement Kruger considered a threat from IMG being in fact a quote from one of the BowEx vessels, I do not believe anyone can maintain there was any threat from us. I find it in fact more likely, that Kruger was trying to twist these words into something that they were not, with the specific intent to discredit the Independent Miners Guild.
Respectfully, considering the above, I would request this second fine to be annulled.
Regards,
- Guildmaster Johnathan Sanders
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - Kruger - 12-25-2011
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To: Rheinland Federal Police, New Berlin office~Independent Miner Guilds
Topic: Hostile action against kruger Minerals
Guten tag again mein herrs.
We reviewed records of an entire conversation with bowex vessels. Since we wheren't presented from the begining therefor we couldn't understand the context of those few "threating words" and we agreed with Rheinland Federal Police that 10 000 000 credits fine should be nullifyed. However these logs can be easily edited and manipulated.
Kruger Minerals corporation is resonable so we dont ask for that log to be aditionaly examned.
But we would also like to remind you and i'm sure you already received a decision and a directive from Rheinland Federal Police to pay 15 000 000 credits fine to Kruger|Vault-01 and official apologie for:
--Atempt of Stealing Kruger Minerals property.
--Atenting to size vital informations about Kruger technologie.
--Acesing the Kruger automated vehicles with no authorisation.
--Insulting Employes of the Kruger Minerals.
--Atempts to undermine our agreements with foreign companies.
The verdict was based on these evidences ~ ~ ~ submitted by the Kruger Minerals.
I am afraid we can no longer allow this to go on. All the evidence has been presented, and a decision has already been made by the Rheinland Bundespolizei for some time already.
So Kruger Minerals demanding from Independent Mining Guilds to respect the Rheinland laws and the decision off Rheinland Bundepolizei.
Kruger Minerals expect a 15 000 000 credits compensation and official apology from Independent Mining Guilds within 36 hours or we will be forced to take matters into our own hands.
Vorsitzender:Hans Wesritter
Kruger Minerals Manage Department
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - AeternusDoleo - 12-26-2011
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From: Johnathan Sanders
To: Kruger Mineralien, Essen Station
CC: Rheinland Federal Police, New Berlin office; Rheinland Military
Subject: Demands
Encryption: Standard
Gentlemen,
As I have stated in rebuttal multiple times, Kruger's own words and actions show a complete lack of respect for us Independent Miners. For motivation of this (Kruger's insinuation of IMG involvement in piracy - and even the accusation of us threatening Bretonian transports), see the previous communique's leading up to this. This behaviour has been an ongoing issue for as long as I can recall, or rather, ever since Kruger decided to open up Elbich on our doorstep. I will accept the liability for the damages done by some of our more boisterous members, but given your current sentiments towards us, any apology would be an unmeant one. Therefor there will be no apology. Let me be blunt. We do not like your company, how it is ran, nor your behaviour towards us Independent Miners. But the Walker nebula is vast enough that multiple mining enterprises can coexist there.
Also, I would again like to remind Kruger, that it is not a law-enforcing entity itself, and that any further such issues should be forwarded to either the Rheinland Federal Police, or if they consider it out of their juristiction, the Rheinland Military instead. Frankly, gentlemen, your messages are hard enough to decypher without post-transmission encryption. I would also recommend against "taking matters into your own hands". The Omegas are unstable enough as it is with the latest reports of rogue reserve military vessels - I'm positive the Rheinland Military would not have much patience for any other folk stepping out of line.
Restitutions for the damages have been transferred. The Independent Miners Guild now considers this matter dealt with. If Kruger disagrees, it may submit a complaint through proper Rheinland legal channels.
And incidentally... Setting a sharp 36 hour deadline over what is still a recognized Sirius-wide holiday? Poor form gentlemen. Truly poor form.
Regards,
- Johnathan Sanders, on behalf of the Independent Miners Guild
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - Kruger - 12-26-2011
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To: Rheinland Federal Police, New Berlin office~Independent Miner Guilds
Topic: Hostile action against kruger Minerals
**As I have stated in rebuttal multiple times, Kruger's own words and actions show a complete lack of respect for us Independent Miners.** :nono:
Herr Sanders how you dare to speak like that? What Kruger words and actions exactly you are insinuating ?
Dont forget we offered you hand of friendship first but you return the favour to us by showing clear simptoms of [color=#FFFF33]Cleptomania toward youre Kruger competitors.
We clearly proved that youre workers are nothing but bunch of thieves trying to steal other companies equipment.
We also proved that you are using ilegal competition metods and by such you are damaging Rheinland economy.
Not to mention the insults it's better not to quote that again.
**Also, I would again like to remind Kruger, that it is not a law-enforcing entity itself**
Herr Sanders we are not law enforcing entity here but we keep every right to defend our lives our dignity and our property from the criminals no mather who they working for (in this case)"Independent Mining Guilds" or any other company.
Criminals are criminals no mather wich flag they are using and they should be treated as such.
You keep youre workers on a tight leash herr Sanders and there should be no further incidents in the future i hope.
**I'm positive the Rheinland Military would not have much patience for any other folk stepping out of line.**
If anyone steped the line it is youre company mein herr. I think evidence are stating that clearly enough.
We just asked for protection of our rights.
**And incidentally... Setting a sharp 36 hour deadline over what is still a recognized Sirius-wide holiday? Poor form gentlemen.**
True herr Sanders but some of us are celebrating Sirius-Wide holiday 12 days afther.
Dont forget that you are in Rheinland space.
You are nothing but the guests here so try to keep that in mind, our government was kind more than enough to youre corporation.
And this is the way how you say thanks to the people of Rheinland for that hospitality by atempting to steal drones from one of their own companies, and by using ilegal competition methods to increase youre profit and to damage Rheinland economie by doing the same.
Shame on you herr Sanders shame on you !!!
Vorsitzender:Hans Wesritter
Kruger Minerals Manage Department
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To the Independant Mining Guilds --Their eyes only-- - AeternusDoleo - 12-26-2011
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From: Johnathan Sanders
To: Kruger Mineralien, Essen Station
CC: Rheinland Federal Police, New Berlin office; Rheinland Military
Subject: Demands
Encryption: Standard
Mr Westritter,
You've provided little more then "we've already proven it" as a motive for your accusations, yet aside from one count of vandalism (for which reparations have been made, and the perpetrators disciplined), all your evidence has been dismissed as either unsubstantiated or outright false.
To address your points, one final time:
I dare "speak like that". Your company does not intimidate the Guild, no matter how hard you try. The words I am insinuating are the communication logs your now conveniently reencrypted message contained in regards to the mining platform incident. It clearly showed the artificial intelligence of the vessel insinuating the IMG associates with pirates. Seeing as we don't, the claim was unsubstantiated. That is called slander, sir. Furthermore, your continuous unproven branding of our workers as criminals, is slander as well. A blantant generalization - sure, there's a few rotten apples in any organization, but given we've had our own issues with Kruger employees taking agressive action towards us as far as the upper Taus, I'd hardly say that is something unique to the IMG. The lack of respect? Your demanding tone of writing, your unilateral decision to re-encrypt your original transmission, your 36 hour demand in a time that people are not likely to be available to respond to it, and your assertion to be an authority that can make demands of us, are all good examples of this.
The right to defend yourself against agressors is not in question, but I fail to see how it applies here. If anything, the lack of any human supervision is what incited some of our less disciplined guildsmen to play around with your automated platform. Theft of it would have been pointless, as the IMG does not believe in automating asteroid mining. It replaces human labor, and thus takes away from our goal of providing labor for those who seek it, as much as we can. Any information on it would also have been trivial. The Hegemon class heavy asteroid miner is a class of ship we're quite familiar with, seeing as Aland produces this class of vessel. Removal of life support to cut operating costs, and have virtually the entire ship operate with a centrally controlled AI, and a small complement of service droids is something that is well within our capabilities to put together, but frankly, I've stated the reason why we have no interest in that. Aside from the artificial intelligence itself, there is nothing on your mining ships that we ourselves do not already know of.
As for Rheinland's economy - a substantial portion of the resources we mine, both in Omega 7 and in other parts of Sirius, ends up at the ALG smelters on Dortmund and New Berlin. Given that we're primarily producing raw and refined minerals, and leave the fabrication of more specialized goods to other companies, I dare say that we are a boon to the Rheinland economy overall. We're a competitor to -your- company. But -your- company does not constitute the Rheinland economy as a whole. Not by a longshot. And incidentally, the Rheinland economy is still recovering from the tailspin the 80 year war sent it into. A war Kruger was directly responsible for. So stop blaming us for the mess your own company has made. The state of the Rheinland economy is not our doing.
As for disrupting your contracts with other companies, it's called a free market. If you think you can deliver a better product or service, then open trade negotiations with those parties you wish to partner with, and attempt to get exclusive contracts. However, considering most the materials we compete in are basically just (refined) raw materials, becoming an exlusive supplier tends to limit the options of a company. In the chaotic state Sirius is in, few companies choose to limit their options. All our own contracts are nonexclusive as a result. If that business model is not compatible with your own enterprise, then I suggest you either offer your partners a better deal, or restructure yourselves. Offering another company a, in our eyes, superior service is not against any trade law; That you call it illegal without substantiating that any trade law is actually broken by this, is in itself slander from your end.
As for stepping out of line, your comment that you would "take matters into your own hands" is the basis for that. You did not ask for the "protection of your rights", instead you made a direct, and excessive demand of us, mostly based on false claims. To my knowledge, the Rheinland Military enforces order in the Omega 7 border world. You, like ourselves, are a civilian entity. In short, you have no mandate to "take matters into your own hands" - that falls to the Military, who, if my knowledge of Rheinland law is accurate, will chase down individual criminals that have been branded as such by a Rheinland court, or individuals that are part of an organization that has been branded illegal by the Rheinland law. Neither of these scenarios applied to the current situation - the Rheinland Police acted as an arbitrator, to try and mediate this dispute before the courts were needed. I'm satisfied with their arbitration.
As for being in Rheinland space, the IMG established itself in Omega 7 years before either Kruger or Daumann, and years before Rheinland started to annex the system. At the time, the military patrols were sporadic, and generally confined to the trade lanes. Your company at the time was quite keen on staying in the safe confines of Dresden, but successive stripmining operations have either exhausted or destroyed mineral production there. We're not "guests" as you put it. Von Rohe may have found the system, but we were the pioneers that found the wealth within. If anyone is interloping on existing claims it would be your company, on the fruits of our prospecting. Be grateful that we did not oppose you as the GMG did, as that was certainly within our right. I will say it again: The resources in the Omega 7 region of the Walker nebula are vast enough that we can all profit from it.
Finally, two words of advice on a personal note.
1: Using emotion icons in official communications looks... unprofessional. Please refrain from such.
2: When making claims, substantiate them, always. There is a famous quote from an old Sol universal archive, that applies quite well: "Citation Needed".
Regards,
- Johnathan Sanders, on behalf of the Independent Miners Guild
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