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CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Astennu123 - 01-14-2012
Hey there peeps.
Well yeah, I'm pretty sure that you know the outcome of this battle. Back then, we could not beat the Havana with two cruisers. Depends on the pilots aswell, but still.
Now this is what's happened:
Kapew
Yes. I could solo the Havana in an anti-snub cruiser at point-blank range. The Havana is an Osiris equipped with order secondaries and primaries.
I think all this stuff affects RP in a bad-way. Every other faction who have SRP ships, like HF, Order and such are affected by this new system. I'm sure you guys know that this makes those ships absolutely useless. For example, you get engaged by two bombers. If you aim well, you can take at least one out with the secondaries, but poof, there goes your powercore and good luck with dodging snacs and novas for six minutes until the core recharges.
Are you serious?
Edit: The powercore is nerfed down to 10%.
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Enoch - 01-14-2012
Just out of curiosity, what is the power output nerf on the Havana?
Edit:
' Wrote:Hey there peeps.Edit: The powercore is nerfed down to 10%.And it's an Osiris with Coalition ID and Order turrets?
It seems that the nerf is twofold, you get nerfed for using an Osiris on a Coalition ID, and you get nerfed for using Order turrets on a Coalition ID, right?
I think the second part doesn't make much sense. I mean, there is no reason for the weapons to be less effective since they are used on a ship they are supposed to be used on in the first place.
Why would Order turrets be nerfed on an Order ship?
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - MB52 - 01-14-2012
It doesn't seem that weapons make a difference.
Its the same with the Thunderbay 10 percent with order weapons on the LABC or 10 percent with no weapons onboard....
Fraid to say it.. but its looking like the more unique ships in this mod will be destined to being useless.
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Aphil - 01-14-2012
Aye, it's an Osiris with Order Turrets. Literally the only difference from an Order Osiris is the ID. I don't see how the Havana has an "Unfair" or particularly "Special" Loadout, and yet people who champion this Tech Nerf (Interestingly enough, themselves not having any ship that has been nerfed to this extent) claim that it prevents loadouts from being for pure PvP Advantage. :rolleyes:
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Jeremy Hunter - 01-14-2012
' Wrote:Just out of curiosity, what is the power output nerf on the Havana?
Edit:
And it's an Osiris with Coalition ID and Order turrets?
It seems that the nerf is twofold, you get nerfed for using an Osiris on a Coalition ID, and you get nerfed for using Order turrets on a Coalition ID, right?
I think the second part doesn't make much sense. I mean, there is no reason for the weapons to be less effective since they are used on a ship they are supposed to be used on in the first place.
Correct.
Edit: Ninja'd cuz Im playing skyrim...sigh.
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Enoch - 01-14-2012
' Wrote:Aye, it's an Osiris with Order Turrets. Literally the only difference from an Order Osiris is the ID. I don't see how the Havana has an "Unfair" or particularly "Special" Loadout,Yeah, I see what you mean. If it had another type of turrets, it might cause a balance problem because the Osiris wasn't designed and balanced to use something else than Order weapons, but right now you're being nerfed for using the correct turrets on the correct ship.
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - MB52 - 01-14-2012
Similar to the T-bay, I mostly use "special" weapons available to all, such as cerbs, LMs and Solaris... something any LABC can get... *Shrugs* guess my subpar loadout was too uber for the poor Navy to fight whom.. I never fight with.... o.o
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Zahas - 01-14-2012
Primarys aren't 800 m/s ... the infocard it's a lie they'r much slower
Cruisers got a very high chance to beat a BS.
BS Missile spam? CM boy.
It doesn't suprise me that Havana lost and the nerf? Double nerf for Havana (Osiris)
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Aphil - 01-14-2012
' Wrote:Primarys aren't 800 m/s ... the infocard it's a lie they'r much slowerYou're completely missing the point.
Cruisers got a very high chance to beat a BS.
BS Missile spam? CM boy.
It doesn't suprise me that Havana lost and the nerf? Double nerf for Havana (Osiris)
He's literally circling around me at near pointblank range. Literally, 400 Metres away, just circling around me completely alone without any other support and I can't even deshield him. The Osiris only has one heavy slot anyway, and that's for a Mortar. Even if I wanted to, I'd only be able to launch one missile before my powercore would go "lolno". Even if I can't hit him with my Primaries, that's why I have Secondaries as well. I could fire 1 Secondary every second, or 1 Primary every 2 and a half seconds. His shield regenerated too fast for me to be able to even scratch his hull.
I've flown the Havana before near the start of the Mod when the Devs more or less deactivated the Nerfs for a while. It was then that I fought two Cruisers and they couldn't even deshield me, and they weren't Cruiser Noobs mind you, they were good pilots and I was still able to give them a hell of a black eye before one of them made the mistake of coming too close and I killed him. Even with the so called Osiris "Nerf", I could hold my own without a problem. Now, I can't even de-shield a cruiser at point-blank range.
CPW-Radek vs. CPW-Havana - Domjan - 01-14-2012
' Wrote:Hey there peeps.
Well yeah, I'm pretty sure that you know the outcome of this battle. Back then, we could not beat the Havana with two cruisers. Depends on the pilots aswell, but still.
Now this is what's happened:
Kapew
Yes. I could solo the Havana in an anti-snub cruiser at point-blank range. The Havana is an Osiris equipped with order secondaries and primaries.
I think all this stuff affects RP in a bad-way. Every other faction who have SRP ships, like HF, Order and such are affected by this new system. I'm sure you guys know that this makes those ships absolutely useless. For example, you get engaged by two bombers. If you aim well, you can take at least one out with the secondaries, but poof, there goes your powercore and good luck with dodging snacs and novas for six minutes until the core recharges.
Are you serious?
Edit: The powercore is nerfed down to 10%.
So you're saying, disadvantage in PvP affects RP in a bad way?
I can only see it getting better.