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Bounty Hunters Guild - Tic - 04-06-2008
First, this is not one of those "lets argue untill admins lock the thread" or "flame war".
There seems to be some confusion about bounty hunters as faction.
I'v been reading a lot of posts lately where people complain about being engeaged by BHGs even if they
have no bounty on them, so just to make clear:
If you are criminal, you will be engeaged.
BHGs are not like mercs, attacking pirats only if they have bounty, it is a faction. Faction that sees all
criminals as enemys, and will engeage them reardless of is there a bounty on them.
This is because of years taking bountys against criminals, so all criminal factions will engeage BHGs on
sight, why wouldn't we do the same? That makes BHGs in some sense 'lawfull'. :mellow:
Flying my [Core] chars i have expirienced many moments when, after killing a pirat, Corsair, LR or Outcast,
that he/she contacts me asking is there a bounty on his/her head. The stupidest thing is when i find a cruiser
blasting BHG NPCs and then, after i destroy him, he contacts me and threatens me that he will report me
because there is no bounty on his/her head.:wacko:
Come on people, think a bit before arguing. BHGs are not indie mercs, we are faction, that sees all criminals as hostiles:
ALLIES:
House Police
ENEMIES:
Criminals, The Order
So next time you get destroyed by BHG, first wonder what were you doing when you were attacked, dont go
on privat channels and annoy BHG that killed you with "I WANT TO KNOW WHERE IS BOUNTY ON MY HEAD!!!". :dry:
I also appologise if anyone is insulted by this thread. :$
Bounty Hunters Guild - Robert.Fitzgerald - 04-06-2008
The problem is, the MAJORITY of Bounty Hunters I have seen fly around in their nice little capital ships, with no roleplay at all, blowing up pirates left-right and centre. They do this all around Sirius, no matter where you are. Eventually, a Bounty Hunter battlecruiser will come after you and blow you up.
That's why people complain about Bounty Hunters attacking without bounties. Because the Bounty Hunters Guild you described is a form of Sirius Police.
Anyway, the Bounty Hunters are out there for MONEY. Not for random fun blowing up criminals. Read any infocard: the Bounty Hunters chase the highest-paying bounties with lots of their pilots. This shows they only fight for cash, not to destroy their so-called 'enemies'. Think about it, why would a Bounty Hunter risk his ship and life to fight a criminal with no bounty?
That's another reason why people want the Bounty Hunters to engage only bountied targets. Because it'd a) encourage the Employeement office to actually be used and b) it's good roleplay.
My Bounty Hunter will only engage Order and bountied targets.
Bounty Hunters Guild - Tic - 04-06-2008
Of course, i forgot to write that, BHGs(at least the Core will...) will always go for highest bounty and ignore all others, unless they are attacked. But if there is no bounty for us, we will hunt down most criminals on sight, because there is a lot ot people out there, and you never know who will you find on next station, perhaps just the bounty on the one you just killed.(this is talking in RP of course...)
Bounty Hunters Guild - marauder - 04-06-2008
Unfortunately tic thats the attitude people don't want to see from BHG players, faction ones or independent. Because that is a sirus police faction/group which is most definately not required when player criminal factions are attacking each other almost daily.
This is suppose to be a RP server, not a "i'm a BHG, I can go anywhere, kill any criminal and not bother with RP" server.
Because thats what will happen if BHG ID'd players think they can shoot whoever they like, where they like, when they like and not have to bother saying anything at all.
Bounty Hunters Guild - Robert.Fitzgerald - 04-06-2008
' Wrote:Of course, i forgot to write that, BHGs(at least the Core will...) will always go for highest bounty and ignore all others, unless they are attacked. But if there is no bounty for us, we will hunt down most criminals on sight, because there is a lot ot people out there, and you never know who will you find on next station, perhaps just the bounty on the one you just killed.(this is talking in RP of course...)
You can't exactly speak for the Bounty Hunter community. I bet the majority have never even fufilled a bounty, let alone ignore criminals...
So what you are saying is if there are no bounties (which there usually isn't), you will hunt down criminals for fun, because there are lots of them. That reeks of pvp-whoring.
Bounty Hunters Guild - Xoria - 04-06-2008
This topic has nothing whatsoever to do with the server rules, that I can see, so I'm moving it.
Bounty Hunters Guild - Robert.Fitzgerald - 04-06-2008
Good decision Xoria.
Anyway, my idea for a Bounty Hunter Guild Council will hopefully change the Guild's reputation on this server. I'm going to try and get every Hunter registered and informed about the Guild and its roleplay.
In its current state, the Guild is a sirius-police pvping faction. This has to change.
Bounty Hunters Guild - Reverend Del - 04-06-2008
Oh joy, Tic, you're Core, as stated by the BHG infocard your vessel should not be seen outside of the edgeworlds, pursuing you're war with the order for possession of new and interesting technologies, the rest of the guild swans around the House and borderworlds taking any paying jobs they can find, in the context of this server that means bounties or missions. BHG do not police the sector shooting at what they please, there must be a boundary. I think you'll find that most of the BHG on this forum will concur with me.
Bounty Hunters Guild - Jinx - 04-06-2008
it has everything to do with the server rules...
by the faction, i agree with tic. the BHG should be able to engage pirates and criminals on sight. - they are no turncoats and not payed to kill either lawfuls or unlawfuls.
but the server is afraid of a siriuswide policeforce. - in order not to get the "you have no bounty on me!" stuff and other "comments", you have to:
- announce yourself politely before you engage ( or you re threatened with sanctions [ happened to me by a player ] )
- have proof to have an official contract on the person ( like every pirate is a lawyer )
- fly anything but a capital warship, cause we all know that ships bigger than a bomber = bad roleplayer ( allright, i m sarcastic )
its a highly unfair situation for the most part. pirates kos BHGs. - but the BHG must not do that. when they do, they re yelled at. so - yes, i think tic is right AND its a rule problem - even if its not a written rule - people will get lost in complaints and ooRP comments when a BHG would indeed engage every criminal like its stated in their enemies list.
there are pros and cons about that issue. - but if we apply the same rules that we apply to every other faction, every criminal is indeed an enemy of the BHG and can be engaged with just the same reason that outcasts attack the corsairs.
edit: the BHG underlays special rules and limitations. - their rep sheet should show all criminals red and they can be engaged by any criminal, yet cannot attack them. they are not a police - and should ask to be allowed to engage whent here is an official police / military around. if there is none around, they represent the highest lawful force and should represent the law.
i don t like it when i scan people and find BHG pilots on both, unlawfuls and lawful ships. - often enough people just don t think about shooting down BHGs. i see zoners with BHG pilots, even navy pilots and police ( and no, they were most probably not rescued ).
so, the BHG is measured by special standards - which is OK - cause they have a large influence and frankly ... a lot of independent players. but - when its purely down to the RP and the rules, they are indeed allowed to engage every pirate.
Bounty Hunters Guild - Tic - 04-06-2008
No, the [Core] will not hunt pirats for fun, we will only attack if we spot a criminal near our way from one system to another, and only if we are not hunting anyone at the moment.