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THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Ursus - 05-08-2012
NOTE this is an attempt to consolidate multiple (separate) proposals into a unified (balanced) set of changes. Please see Rule 5.7 and the Trader Exception and Rule 6.7 in particular. Or not, its fine to just make blind raeg responses too.
Change rule 5.7 to remove the exception for transports, and rewrite the rule so that all players may pass through the dead system for the purpose of getting to another system, but may not interact with any players or facilities in the dead system, and may not stay in the dead system for longer than 10 minutes. No docking, no repairs, no buying/selling, no mining, no hanging around to chat, etc. The only exception to this rule should be ships that are under noobie protection, as defined in 5.3.
Change rule 5.3 to level 35 (note that an unarmored Camara with an empty cargo hold is level 39).
Change rule 6.7 to drop the prohibition on caps attacking transports, but keep the prohibition on caps demanding credits or cargo from transports. This will prevent turtle engaging in lawful piracy against IC transports, but will still allow them to order ships out of the system, engage pirate transports, etc.
Add CMs to every ship. This is necessary since NOVA torpedos and cruiser missiles cannot be shot down with weapons fire nor deflected with CDs. Plus it needs to be at least possible to dodge a CD, even if you cant actually do it in practice.
Improve the performance of transport weapons (link) so that fighting is an option in more situations.
Increase transport afterburner speed to 150, which would make them slightly faster than cruisers, but the same speed as gunboats.
Net affect is that more ship types will be able to engage a transport, and the penalties for losing an engagement will be higher, but it will be harder to successfully engage a transport just by camping a bottlenck that is +30k from a a docking point.
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Veygaar - 05-08-2012
Stop trying to make money making vessels into combat vessels. Jeesh.
"Pass through dead system" clause is already in place.
CMs on every ship means 5ks get an even better buff. They make massive amounts of money, THATS their buff.
Cruisers/BSs shooting transports is stupid. If the lawfuls want to get em, let em use snubs. If you didn't, everyone would be in caps (yeah... cause we sure need MOAR cap spam)
Afterburner speed is fine, transports are cargo haulers/money makers. Their speed is balanced thusly, and they shouldn't have the speed capability of an attack vessel anyways.
In summary. Stop trying to screw things up. Cause that's what you're doing, whether you realize/admit it or not. Suck it up sweetheart, and learn/use the advantages already provided, you have many, it's easy. Put time into that instead of these silly threads.
I've heard you and others brag that you're really good at avoiding pirates (some claim they only get caught when they -want- to). If such claims are true (which they are, i do it myself) then there is no need for any changes.
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Altejago - 05-08-2012
You always seem to have an opinion.
Even when it's not asked of you.
Stick it to one thread will ya?
Like here!
Stop spamming us with more annoying 'your opinion matters so much it requires it's own thread'
Just sayin....
EDIT: What Veygaar said:cool:
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - dodike - 05-08-2012
' Wrote:Cruisers/BSs shooting transports is stupid. If the lawfuls want to get em, let em use snubs. If you didn't, everyone would be in caps (yeah... cause we sure need MOAR cap spam)No more stupid than artificial restrictions preventing them from doing so.
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Ursus - 05-08-2012
There are multiple threads active and I am trying to combine the points into one instead of repeating myself in all of them.
Quote:You always seem to have an opinion.
Even when it's not asked of you.
Stick it to one thread will ya?
Pot... Kettle...
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Altejago - 05-08-2012
Yeah, but high lighting your useless threads makes me happy.
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Silver - 05-08-2012
TL:DR:CBA.
Ergo: Trannies are fine as they are. Everyone makes money in them.
~K.
Ergo: Trannies are fine as they are. Everyone makes money in them.
~K.
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Madvillain - 05-08-2012
' Wrote:Everyone makes money in them.
~K.
Lies!
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Tachyon - 05-08-2012
' Wrote:TL:DR:CBA.
Ergo: Trannies are fine as they are. Everyone makes money in them.
~K.
^
THE GREAT TRANSPORT REBALANCING OF 2012 - Hielor - 05-08-2012
' Wrote:Stop trying to make money making vessels into combat vessels. Jeesh.Congratulations on missing the fact that the rule changes aren't being proposed by Ursus. The changes to 5.7 and 6.7 were proposed by other people in other threads.
"Pass through dead system" clause is already in place.
CMs on every ship means 5ks get an even better buff. They make massive amounts of money, THATS their buff.
Cruisers/BSs shooting transports is stupid. If the lawfuls want to get em, let em use snubs. If you didn't, everyone would be in caps (yeah... cause we sure need MOAR cap spam)
Afterburner speed is fine, transports are cargo haulers/money makers. Their speed is balanced thusly, and they shouldn't have the speed capability of an attack vessel anyways.
In summary. Stop trying to screw things up. Cause that's what you're doing, whether you realize/admit it or not. Suck it up sweetheart, and learn/use the advantages already provided, you have many, it's easy. Put time into that instead of these silly threads.
I've heard you and others brag that you're really good at avoiding pirates (some claim they only get caught when they -want- to). If such claims are true (which they are, i do it myself) then there is no need for any changes.