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New OSI ID. - Psymple - 07-30-2012
Anyway...
So since well before Jump Drives got introduced OSI have been asking for an ID letting them
dock in house space... Congrats to them, they got it, I am truely happy for them.
However in order to get this ID they had to give up Captical vessels...
No big deal, they are traders, they dont need capital ships...
However now with the introduction of Jumpdrive MKIV's I bet they really wish they
hadnt given up Capital Ship privilages...
Or do they?
Everyone know it, its no big secret that the OSI used to jump their Barges around making a crazy ton of money, but like the rest of the zoners they were banned from house space so we didnt mind.
Yet now with their nice fleet of untagged <strike>OSI</strike> wait i mean non-OSI capital ships they can do both?
So... What exactly did OSI give up for this?
Ok ok ok ok... shut up psy!!!
This is a ROLE PLAY SERVER... there is a ROLE PLAY agreement between OSI
and a few "individual" capital ship owners...
Yet I just saw a post from the head of OSI saying he could suppyl Galia with
"his" new jump drive technology...
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Ive talked to a few people:
Some say its fine... they worked for it and they RPing it.
Others say its powergaming.
I suppose my main problem is they got what every Zoner in sirius wants, by saying they would give something up and then not giving it up.
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Sorry if this seems like a rant,
I just find it rather silly
and wondered what other peoples oppinions are.
New OSI ID. - Dusty Lens - 07-30-2012
' Wrote:Sorry if this seems like a rant,
I just find it rather silly
and wondered what other peoples oppinions are.
You're correct. It's a rant.
New OSI ID. - Daedric - 07-30-2012
I'm not sure exactly what you find silly.
Is it the fact that we bothered to role play on a........role play server? The fact that we have obeyed our ID's restrictions and our faction's long standing history of not having a capital in our faction? Or is it that you are just mad we got something that we've been working towards for the past two years?
Oh and we still jump our barge and our transports around, but we don't want our faction to revolve around jump trading because it is very unbalanced so we don't break them out every time we log in. We want our members to understand that regular trading is paramount to both our survival and the survival of other factions.
New OSI ID. - Dusty Lens - 07-30-2012
Not to be rude Daedric but maybe you should actually read his post. He's happy, truely, that you guys got your ID.
Some people say it's fine.
But others. Well. Others say it's powergaming.
Psymple is simply on a mission to secure peoples oppinions. Oppinions to balance the nebulous concerns of these horrifying "others". Dark shadows which flit in the space between spaces, whispering poison in the ears of the unwary.
That all being said. Every official Zoner group was extended the same offer and opportunity. Only OSI took it. So, really, the topic of this thread should be one of demanding to know why it is that the official Zoner faction IDs have rights that extend beyond that of the commonly available one?
Answer: Conspiracy. Ripe and glistening conspiracy. Brimming with eggs twitching with anticipation of the day they cleave the very light of the sun from the memory of men.
New OSI ID. - Hell Hunter - 07-30-2012
I was right. You are ranting. And you were whining in skype earlier, you truly do not care about this:P
Also just leave it..? It's not like they're breaking the rules or anything. They are a supply group afterall, trading is what they do.
Dusty you spelt opinions wrong :v
New OSI ID. - Daedric - 07-30-2012
I'm confused now.
A single ship a fleet makes?
New OSI ID. - Psymple - 07-30-2012
Sorry to clarify my point.
I really dont mind what you do...
What I find rather funny is that.
After roleplaying giving up Capital ships for your new ID.
All that seemed to change was that all the Capital ships became untagged
and continued on asthough nothing had changed.
It just seems... Pointless?
Its obveous how its still the same so?
Why should you even have to untag your Capital ships?
My confusion is drawn not from whether it should be allowed
or whether it is unfair... but why is it even necessary...
I dunno... just seems like a pointless sharrade to me...
If you are gonna RP that you are giving Caps... give em up...
' Wrote:I was right. You are ranting. And you were whining in skype earlier, you truly do not care about this:P
Also just leave it..? It's not like they're breaking the rules or anything. They are a supply group afterall, trading is what they do.
Dusty you spelt opinions wrong :v
No... I was a little bothered earlier after I talked to an OSI guy and he jsut said "oh we carry on but we just untagged all our Capital ships and RP that we have a contract with a patricular capital ship owner"
But then the post between Gallia showing they couldnt even keep up the sharrade themselves made me laugh and spill milk all over my desk.. :O
New OSI ID. - Dusty Lens - 07-30-2012
That's one man's oppinions.
Edit: So what you're saying is that if the OSI ID does not have capships on their ID they should not interact with a capitol ship and vis-Ã -vis, should be barred from employing jumpdrives on the suspicion that in so doing they're circumventing the very changes made to their ID?
I concur.
However I feel that this should be applied uniformally. In that any faction that lacks access to certain weight classes of ship should be unable to interact in a fashion which nets positive gain, be it fiscal or tactical, without engaging in a breach of their ID.
Example: OSI does not have capships on its ID. Any person with an OSI ID may not receive any jump bridge services from a capship. Violation of this results in a perma ban.
Interspace Commerce does not have capships on its ID. If someone with an IC ID recieves mysterious help from a capship in defense against a marauding pirate they are in violation of their ID. The result is a perma ban.
If the ship does not fit you must acquit. Simple as.
New OSI ID. - Hell Hunter - 07-30-2012
bro
if they used tags, then they have to use ID, which is then breaking the rules. Besides Zoners help Zoners out.
New OSI ID. - Miranda - 07-30-2012
Jump trading is ridiculously unbalanced and likely to be severely nerfed in the next update. In the mean time any other zoner group can simply jump a barge somewhere then offload it with a smaller transport or two.
The current jump system is so broken everyone abuses it so why make a fuss when it'll be fixed soon?