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Delete the thread. - Sanctum - 01-31-2013
This group has vanished.
Good luck to the Order
RE: The Phantom Regiment - Alvin - 01-31-2013
First of all, good luck to the faction
Just want to ask, how did this group come about ? The history provided is fairly vague, it just poops out by saying it helped "both sides" why is that? what did it do? why moved from the other side of Sirius from the Taus to all the way into the Omicrons ? or even how did the group even form in the first place ?! And "help studying nomad for the order" Is it actually part of the order branch or an individual group working for the order ?
Edit: And also why neph with Zoner ID ? You are Only allowed one ID ?
RE: The Phantom Regiment - Pinko - 01-31-2013
I was afraid for a moment that someone was trying to bring back the Phantoms.
RE: The Phantom Regiment - Sanctum - 01-31-2013
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Well, thank you.
This group , as it is being said, came about in 817 A.S.We're an individial group who is protecting Order interests and technology.
This group is a product of a War between Kusari - Bretonia - Gallia.We have our own interests too.We helped BAF and KNF vs Gallia, and at the same time we were helping The Order recover themselves from the loss of Toledo.
We are using Nephilim with Zoner ID and vs Nomads only because we don't want to be known as Technology Stealers.Zoners protect their technology very well, and we assist them in doing that.What if I would use Nephilim with Order ID ? BHG would report us / be angry on Zoners for letting us use their technology against BHG itself.Zoners are neutral ( Have no hostiles except for the Nomads ) and we don't want another war in Omicrons.Aaannd, we don't want to reproduce Phantoms at eny circumstances.
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RE: The Phantom Regiment - SummerMcLovin - 01-31-2013
Well it seems you ignored me regarding the Bundschuh, since not even the Order themselves are "fully allied" with us.
You can use more than one ID as it is only in the rules for official factions (with generic IDs as secondary ones where included).
I don't really see why you'd need it as Zoner ID (since it's generally only the Freelancer factions who want caps who have separate Zoner IDed ships), unless you think you can tear up K'Hara in gated systems using it.
At least you've removed most of the squadrons that weren't really necessary, although it would be best to just omit them instead of "doesn't exist any more".
The goals, very PvP-orientated. There might be a reason not to jump into a fight between Rheinland Military and the Bundschuh (particularly ID rules). Might be worth a bit of a think, and also what sets you apart from the Order| and 141|
EDIT: The clarification about the war... I don't know why you'd think to get involved as Order.
And your Nephilim, the Core aren't around much to catch you. "Stealing" the technology isn't much better than "pressganging" a Zoner crew into service.
RE: The Phantom Regiment - Mercarryn - 01-31-2013
First of all I suggest you look over your diplomacy again. Especially those order squadrons like 30th do not exist anymore, so why mention them again?
There are other nonexistant factions on the list, too.
While we are at it: It is Taskforce 141, not 141st Taskforce!
And using zoner ID for zoner nephilim just weird to my mind. Use Order ID on it, np.
RE: The Phantom Regiment - Sanctum - 01-31-2013
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Well, thank you for notifying me about the Bundschuh status again.I will change it in the first transmission.As you said, we will not jump in the fights between Rheinland Military and Bundschuh.
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Well , I'll change the diplomacy again.About the Nephilim, well......I was told I will be hunted by The Phoenix if I ever use a Nephilim 'with' Order ID.I don't think I'm sure to use it yet with that ID, but its something I'll think of.
If you see eny other mistakes, notify me and I'll change them if neccessary.
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RE: The Phantom Regiment - Alvin - 01-31-2013
(01-31-2013, 07:27 PM)Sanctum Wrote: [color=#FFA500]Well , I'll change the diplomacy again.About the Nephilim, well......I was told I will be hunted by The Phoenix if I ever use a Nephilim 'with' Order ID.I don't think I'm sure to use it yet with that ID, but its something I'll think of.
I believe the message they try were to get across to you, is that if you had actually been authorised to use the Nephilim with the Order ID (the proof of this( eg. RP request in the forum that is approved), and not that you cannot use it in that configuration.
Even though the Phoenix relationship with the Order is very close and friendly, their access to orders snub craft are still restricted in terms of numbers and certainly not permitted to use their capitals without approval.
RE: The Phantom Regiment - SummerMcLovin - 01-31-2013
Oh you can if you want to do it, but having it in your goals that you have to, no matter what, is rather silly. Especially since it's not in your ID, unless we are fighting Wilde.
Friendly with the Bundschuh from the Nomad War is fine, but I'd talk to us before having any specific VWA relations outside those that apply to the whole party itself.
For the Nephilim, do you really need to farm Nomad BS remains? Even if so, why can't you just hunt them in an Osiris?
RE: The Phantom Regiment - Omicron - 01-31-2013
Using Zoner ID is not any better than actually stealing juggernaut.
As Order|, we will never protect you from any Zoner faction that will come to shoot you for unauthorized zoner ships in your fleet, in fact I asked Phoenix to shoot unauthorized Order indies with zoner tech if they feel strong enough. Order| had to role-play its permissions for Zoner "toys" and we continue to do so.
Your diplomacy is outdated and now time for the most standard question... why new faction?