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AI cruiser, what is the current situation with its allowance in other houses - Skittlez - 02-18-2013
Just got attacked by someone because I brought a capital ship into liberty space, But here's the problem I have with his dictation.
AI Is a unique and separate faction, not affiliated with any other house, owning no space, not even in diplomatic situations.
AI cruiser Is (according to the wiki) A freighter which can use Cruiser weps and shields.
So..?
RE: AI cruiser, what is the current situation with its allowance in other houses - Thyrzul - 02-18-2013
1.) The wiki is not an official source of information, it can easily be unreliable.
2.) Despite this, even the wiki states that the AI Cruiser is a cruiser-class vessel, uses cruiser armament and equipment, possesses cruiser-sized power core, size, hull strength, able to carry about the same amount of Nanobots and Shield Batteries as other cruisers do. Read more about the subject here.
3.) The Laws of the Republic of Liberty forbids any capital vessel entering Liberty space regardless of faction or affilitation, unless written permission has been granted. Read more about the subject here.
RE: AI cruiser, what is the current situation with its allowance in other houses - Felix_Wannamaker_III - 02-19-2013
It is, for all intents and purposes, a cruiser. And a pretty decent one at that.
Its not a wise idea to fly it around in anything resembling house space. If you want to play AI, get a core ship and fly that.
Oh, and a shameless plug here for the new AI| faction.
RE: AI cruiser, what is the current situation with its allowance in other houses - Skittlez - 02-19-2013
(02-18-2013, 11:55 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: 1.) The wiki is not an official source of information, it can easily be unreliable.
2.) Despite this, even the wiki states that the AI Cruiser is a cruiser-class vessel, uses cruiser armament and equipment, possesses cruiser-sized power core, size, hull strength, able to carry about the same amount of Nanobots and Shield Batteries as other cruisers do. Read more about the subject here.
3.) The Laws of the Republic of Liberty forbids any capital vessel entering Liberty space regardless of faction or affilitation, unless written permission has been granted. Read more about the subject here.
The wiki is hosted on http://discoverygc.com alongside the forums, and the main site, including all things discovery. Though the only information that can be incorect is to do with a server specific wants, meaning if a server wants wormholes in areas, or certain weapons for sale they can change that.
RE: AI cruiser, what is the current situation with its allowance in other houses - Echo 7-7 - 02-19-2013
(02-19-2013, 12:20 AM)Skittlez Wrote:(02-18-2013, 11:55 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: 1.) The wiki is not an official source of information, it can easily be unreliable.
2.) Despite this, even the wiki states that the AI Cruiser is a cruiser-class vessel, uses cruiser armament and equipment, possesses cruiser-sized power core, size, hull strength, able to carry about the same amount of Nanobots and Shield Batteries as other cruisers do. Read more about the subject here.
3.) The Laws of the Republic of Liberty forbids any capital vessel entering Liberty space regardless of faction or affilitation, unless written permission has been granted. Read more about the subject here.
The wiki is hosted on http://discoverygc.com alongside the forums, and the main site, including all things discovery. Though the only information that can be incorect is to do with a server specific wants, meaning if a server wants wormholes in areas, or certain weapons for sale they can change that.
The wiki is open to editing by players and is not recognised by the Administration as an infallible source of lore, rules, or game technical references. Wiki maintenance is handled by a group of regular editors who are overseen by Wiki Admins, two of whom are also server Admins. The Wiki should always be used as a guide, and the information cross-referenced with other sources for authenticity when in doubt.
That said, the AI Cruiser is a Cruiser as its name suggests; the Freighter label occasionally seen in-game is an unfortunate limitation caused by the game engine.
RE: AI cruiser, what is the current situation with its allowance in other houses - Agmen of Eladesor - 02-19-2013
(02-19-2013, 12:28 AM)Echo 7-7 Wrote:(02-19-2013, 12:20 AM)Skittlez Wrote:(02-18-2013, 11:55 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: 1.) The wiki is not an official source of information, it can easily be unreliable.
2.) Despite this, even the wiki states that the AI Cruiser is a cruiser-class vessel, uses cruiser armament and equipment, possesses cruiser-sized power core, size, hull strength, able to carry about the same amount of Nanobots and Shield Batteries as other cruisers do. Read more about the subject here.
3.) The Laws of the Republic of Liberty forbids any capital vessel entering Liberty space regardless of faction or affilitation, unless written permission has been granted. Read more about the subject here.
The wiki is hosted on http://discoverygc.com alongside the forums, and the main site, including all things discovery. Though the only information that can be incorect is to do with a server specific wants, meaning if a server wants wormholes in areas, or certain weapons for sale they can change that.
The wiki is open to editing by players and is not recognised by the Administration as an infallible source of lore, rules, or game technical references. Wiki maintenance is handled by a group of regular editors who are overseen by Wiki Admins, two of whom are also server Admins. The Wiki should always be used as a guide, and the information cross-referenced with other sources for authenticity when in doubt.
That said, the AI Cruiser is a Cruiser as its name suggests; the Freighter label occasionally seen in-game is an unfortunate limitation caused by the game engine.
Skittlez, Echo is correct. While the wiki is hosted here, it is NOT considered to be official as far as server administration is concerned simply because the darn thing can be edited by too many people. Hosting does not equal authority.
If you look at FLStat, what you'll find is that NPC capital ships are considered by the game engine to be capital ships. But PLAYER cap ships are considered by the game engine to be freighters. (Actually, players only get two kinds of ships, fighters and freighters - so if it's a snub the game engine considers it a fighter, and if it's bigger the game engine considers it a freighter.) That's just part of the game mechanics.
Also note that if you specifically go to the AI Cruiser PAGE (http://discoverygc.com/wiki/AI_Cruiser) on the wiki, it says, Cruiser class. It's a cap warsihp, and thus prohibited by house laws from entering house space. (Not a server rule violation, so you're fine that way - but the house police or navy will kill you.)
RE: AI cruiser, what is the current situation with its allowance in other houses - SothaSil - 02-19-2013
Oh hey, you're the guy who claimed that his Cruiser is a freighter, talked with lol and smilies in local, then docked on Newark after I engaged you on my LNS, then came back and claimed that it's not a pvp death cause two parties would have to fight to make it a pvp encounter.
I lol'd. (I also lol'd when you tried to rulelawyer me afterwards on my Angel)