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Awesome gaming PC? - Balaerus - 02-27-2013

Hey guys I'm about to buy a new pc, do you have any suggestions which parts I should buy? Keep in mind that the total package should be about €850, it's a fair budget considering my age. Anyhow if you like to help me choosing parts for my new pc then please explain to me why I should buy it. (Because it's cheap, high price/performance ratio, well optimized or whatever reason you have.)

Must:

- Play new games on high quality graphics @ 60 fps,
- Contain an SSD, (Because I love them)
- €850 > PC

(Oh and don't make this end up in an Intel vs AMD war! Big Grin)



RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Delithor - 03-01-2013

better to build one if your looking for a gaming computer. @ New Egg


RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Tyler - 03-01-2013

Or, as you're from the Netherlands, try looking on Tweakers, here's a link to the latest Best Buy Guide, containing multiple set-ups.

I did my PC like this couple of years ago and still not disappointed.


RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Anaximander - 03-01-2013

If I was you, I'd be patient and wait for the specs for PS4 and the new xbox to be fully unveiled.

The reason this generation of PC hardware has had such longevity has been because developers have been limiting themselves to ensure games could run on all platforms. The level of detail/graphics and so on in PC games have in other words been limited by the consoles.

I expect a new version of DirectX will be launched simultaneously with the new Xbox, and if you get hardware/graphics card that comply with those standards, you'll be set for the next generation of games. If not, you'll probably have to upgrade one or more parts of your computer within the next 1-2 years.


RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Zahas - 03-01-2013

Intel / Nvidia
Better fps, lower power usage

CPU should be i5
GPU GTX 660 / 660 Ti
PSU - Super Flower 650 W Gold King if you find one
SSD - Go with anything you desire
HDD - 7200 RPM / How much you desire
RAM - 8 gb
Motherboard - i don't know, myself i would go with Gigabyte or Asus around 100-150 euro

You can work around those prices and go with an AMD 7850 for GPU
but games like Crysis 3 / Metro 2033 / BF 3 (4 soon) with full AA and constantly 60 FPS you won't even achive with GTX 680 on 1920x1080. You will find yourself around 40-60 fps. Maybe i'm wrong in some cases.

Have fun looking for benchmarks Tongue


RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Balaerus - 03-01-2013

(03-01-2013, 08:58 AM)Delithor Wrote: better to build one if your looking for a gaming computer. @ New Egg

Yes I am building one but I wonder which parts I should buy.

(03-01-2013, 09:44 AM)Tyler Wrote: Or, as you're from the Netherlands, try looking on Tweakers, here's a link to the latest Best Buy Guide, containing multiple set-ups.

I did my PC like this couple of years ago and still not disappointed.
Yeah Tweakers is awesome, I'll take a look at their best buy guide.

(03-01-2013, 11:22 AM)Anaximander Wrote: If I was you, I'd be patient and wait for the specs for PS4 and the new xbox to be fully unveiled.

The reason this generation of PC hardware has had such longevity has been because developers have been limiting themselves to ensure games could run on all platforms. The level of detail/graphics and so on in PC games have in other words been limited by the consoles.

I expect a new version of DirectX will be launched simultaneously with the new Xbox, and if you get hardware/graphics card that comply with those standards, you'll be set for the next generation of games. If not, you'll probably have to upgrade one or more parts of your computer within the next 1-2 years.
Specs of the PS4 are released and it's awesome, but it's totally different from a PC. I think you can't compare those 2 considering all the PC and the console exclusive games. I want to keep on playing PC exclusive games that's why I have both Angel
(03-01-2013, 12:11 PM)Zahas Wrote: Intel / Nvidia
Better fps, lower power usage

CPU should be i5
GPU GTX 660 / 660 Ti
PSU - Super Flower 650 W Gold King if you find one
SSD - Go with anything you desire
HDD - 7200 RPM / How much you desire
RAM - 8 gb
Motherboard - i don't know, myself i would go with Gigabyte or Asus around 100-150 euro

You can work around those prices and go with an AMD 7850 for GPU
but games like Crysis 3 / Metro 2033 / BF 3 (4 soon) with full AA and constantly 60 FPS you won't even achive with GTX 680 on 1920x1080. You will find yourself around 40-60 fps. Maybe i'm wrong in some cases.

Have fun looking for benchmarks Tongue

This is really close to what I've been thinking of. Although I'm still not sure which CPU I'm going to buy. I want the i5 3570k but it's €200 while AMD offers me a CPU for €100 with nearly the same specs.

By the way the GTX 660 TI is able to play BF3 at ultra in full HD @ 60 fps even when recording.



RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Anaximander - 03-02-2013

Are there PC exclusive games anymore? The last / only non-rts/mmo PC exclusive game I heard about was Chris Roberts' new game, but in reality almost all popular new games are out on all 3 platforms.

Although specs differ, and you can't get the exact same hardware; its the 360 and PS3 that kept the current PC hardware alive for so long, because devs have a clear financial interest in creating games that can run on all 3 platforms with a minimum of porting. You can take advantage of that by getting hardware that is on par with what the new console hardware / new DirectX that will probably be released within the year. My mate did that in 2006 just after the 360 / DirectX 10 came out, he can still play even the latest games (with mediocre settings) on the same hardware 7 years later - in other words you get really good value for money.

Recently, the consoles have taken the lead and games are developed for those, then ported to the PC. We will see even more of that in the future, because the money is in the console industry.


RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Strichev - 03-02-2013

All that just to play freelancer. And yes, consoles are known to have been keeping developers close to the ground.
Oh, and Anaxiomander...explaining the same thing twice...you have patience, I give you that.


RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Junes - 03-02-2013

Assemble it yourself, really. And stay loyal to PC, frak consoles, srsly. But that's just me being stubborn.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to build my next PC together with a friend.


RE: Awesome gaming PC? - Anaximander - 03-02-2013

Lol it doesn't have to do with fanboy-ism of neither PC nor consoles, it's just basic common sense. I don't have any of the consoles.

There's no sense in getting a good system now, when in 6 months a new DirectX will most likely be released (which might be a quantum leap forward to cover the gap from current gen to next gen gaming) that could render your current new-ish hardware obsolete within the next year or two.

Limitations to shader models within DirectX pose a "hard" cap - for instance, Shader 3.0 games simply won't open or run on Shader 2.0 systems no matter how low you configure your settings. That's why it's a good idea to watch out for given standards within the next DirectX if you want to make a (somewhat) lasting investment, rather than having to run out and get new stuff in a year from now.